Boss denies employee's leave because they've "used too much" of their "unlimited" PTO: 'I'm going anyways'

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    Boss is denying PTO simply because he feels I've used too much. We have unlimited PTO according to our company policy. Wife and I started talking about a road trip over Labor Day, how fun. All my current projects conveniently end a couple weeks prior, and no one else has taken any time off that week.
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    My boss says, well, we try and keep it to one week per quarter. You already took a couple days back in June and have already reserved a week in August. I don't think this is going to fly. I'm going anyways. This was your notice.
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    chompy283 2 days ago I don't understand the unlimited pto thing. I don't like vague undefined terms. Like oh it's unlimited but only if we approve it but don't expect to take more than 2 weeks off. It seems like a shady thing
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    Krewtan 2 days ago • It's a way to pretend they offer good PTO as a benefit without needing to pay out accrued PTO when the employee leaves the job. Unlimited PTO is a scam, they can simply not approve it, many places with it guilt their employees for asking to keep them from using it.
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    • troutdog99 2 days ago Correct. This "benefit" is entirely a financial trick to keep pto off the books as a liability. They attempt to spin it as a plus to employees, but it is not.
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    Nolanova 2 days ago . Like everything, it ultimately depends on the work environment. My job gives unlimited PTO and are very supportive of employees taking as much time off as they would like. Unfortunately I realize that is not the case at most companies with "unlimited PTO"
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    Charlie-brownie666 2 days ago unlimited PTO should mean unlimited PTO if it isn't unlimited, they should call it one week per quarter PTO
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    scobeavs OP 2 days ago • Right that's what I'm saying like no one mentioned that when I interviewed, interesting how that's a requirement now
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    • CuriousPenguinSocks 2 days ago I'm pretty sure the reason some jobs have gone to unlimited PTO is so they don't have to pay you out if they fire you or you leave.
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    Process252 2 days ago Yeah dude, that's the whole idea behind "unlimited PTO", so they can deny it whenever they feel like it. Jobs that advertise it are a massive red flag for me
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    CM_MOJO 2 days ago • No, the whole reason for 'unlimited PTO' is so that don't have to spend resources to track it and more importantly, they don't have to pay out unused PTO when an employee leaves. Unlimited PTO does not benefit the employees.
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    MollyGodiva 2 days ago • Unlimited PTO sounds like it is limited but they won't tell you what the limit is.
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    Cylon Belmont · 2 days ago • Previous place I worked at had "unlimited" pto. If you took more than 21 days off a year you were flagged by HR.
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    jjtrinva 2 days ago Can also reframe the conversation. If your performance is good (as you noted) then what's the issue besides perception? Offer to bring in HR to help clear up any "discrepancies" with the policy.
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    401kisfun 2 days ago The single reason unlimited PTO exists is so they do not have to pay out paid time off when someone leaves the company. Its basically wage theft.

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