'I need more from your position to justify the pay': Employee plans to give his two weeks' notice, boss then makes unprofessional comments, so employee quits on the spot

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Ben Weiss • Writer and Editor
Sep 22, 2024 2:00 PM EDT

Bosses who make passive-aggressive comments on a regular basis should not expect loyalty in return. 

This guy already was in hot water for repeatedly being late when it came to paying his team. Any sensible boss knows that you never want to mess with someone's paycheck. That's the easiest way to turn your employees against you. On top of that, he had the audacity to make a passing remark to this Redditor that his output was not justifying his salary. This dude, who really seems to be a walking HR problem at this point, is lucky his employees aren't coming back with comments about his managerial style and lack of timely payments. It doesn't seem like his output is justifying his position as their boss.

After a period of looking for other work on the side, the original poster (OP) finally found a better opportunity and was preparing to give his two weeks' notice when his boss sent a series of even more unprofessional messages. Let's just say those texts made OP reconsider staying for a second longer, let alone two weeks. 

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    Update: Boss had a passing comment "I need more from your position to justify the pay". I landed a new job yesteday, and with great timing, my boss blows up my phone with unprofessional texts (unrelated to new job).
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    Yesterday, I landed a new job and was planning on turning my two- week notice. This morning I got a series of texts claiming I have not been getting the ball rolling. So instead, I decided to quit.
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    Good morning to the team at [redacted]. Unfortunately, today is my last day working at [redacted]. While it was a pleasure to assist you in your CAD and Permitting needs, I
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    have found the work environment here not satisfying my needs. The late-night texts, after hour calls, missing paydays, the unfound claims that I am "not getting the ball rolling" on our open projects are some of the contributing factors to my decision.
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    Also, the comment "I need more from your position to justify the pay" is a comment that has caused more anxiety than missing a deadline, quitting a job,
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    being berated. I believe there are better ways to set expectations for your employees than to devalue them as an asset of the company.
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    Additionally, there are multiple occasions where I have not received full payment during paychecks, and multiple occasions of my mileage not being reimbursed. Both of which are incredibly unprofessional.
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    Now, I do not mean to aim these comments towards anyone other than Jason. Everyone else I have interacted with has been nothing but a delight.
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    Best wishes, and genuinely hoping for your success, [Cpt Mookie]
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    Edit: For those in the comments saying this isn't career advice, you are correct.
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    This is an update to the career advice I received a few weeks ago. In that post, many people of this subreddit expressed anger at the comment and suggested to get a new job. I did intend on giving my two weeks, as many said to do, but I was met with some pretty unprofessional texts.
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    When I was met with that, and with the fact that I already accepted the new job, I just decided to quit on the spot.
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    I'm not here to provide any advice, and the comment section is correct. Give two week notice. 99% of the time that's the right thing to do. In this case, for me personally, it was not the right thing to do.
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    I accept any negative comments, and will acknowledge that there are a lot of sense to what is being said.
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    That being said, if given the option to do this again, I would do it exactly the same way every single time
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    Edit: 9/19/2024 am So many of you have asked, and I want to provide more context. I no longer have access to the texts, so please forgive me. After leaving the company, within one hour, I was locked out of my designated phone, email, and my laptop was left at the office (company property).
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    In the morning of, before I made my decision, I was met with texts and this was the exchange: • Him: "Hey before I get in, please remind [office manager] to help you compile all of our permitted projects. Also have her review with you all the inspections for the jobs you did before you got here."
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    . • Me: "Sounds good. Will do." Him: "No. Not good. You are supposed to keep the ball rolling on these projects, and that is what we are paying you for. A lot of this needs to be wrapped up, and I cannot rely on you to get these things done."
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    I did not respond. I do keep the ball rolling, but as some of you may know, there is a lot of paperwork involved during the permitting process that requires information that only he has. I have emailed him in the past stating "this job needs insurance information for an encroachment"
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    or "this job needs payment for permit issuance" or "this job failed permit because we need specific engineering detail that is incorrect or not provided". Stuff like that. I get the job as far as I can and I inform him of the roadblock. That is how it has always been. I even keep a detailed Trello Board with my last
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    exchange requesting for information or confirmation of permit paid and issued. For extra context. In the four months I have been there I have permitted eleven jobs there. Not a crazy number, but it does illustrate that I AM rolling the jobs when I can.
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    That was the claim that upset me because I keep a very detailed list of jobs that are in process, and have always informed him where our projects stand. For him to claim that I am not keeping the ball rolling when our hangups are primarily waiting for information that only he can provide upset me. So I wrote the letter that I sent in the morning.
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    Now after I decided to leave I had a meeting with him, and things were tense. I explained in person that the comment from a few weeks ago had caused me a lot of distress, and he tried to walk
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    back his intentions. I told him that it's fine, and that I still would move on to this new job. I lied to him about the new employment so that he would have less information to interfere.
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    During the night time, right before dinner (typical time he texts me) and says:
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    "Hey I just wanted to let you know if those comments I said made you that uncomfortable you should have came and talked to me (fyi: I did over phone). And that we paid you a lot of money for not having a license and been being fired from multiple jobs (which got me SO MAD)"
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    So you have a little background about myself. I have had four jobs in the past twelve months. But before you judge me here are my explanations.
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    Job 1: Left in good terms. I was looking for more earning potential for my growing family. Still love this employer.
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    Job 2: Left because I did NOT enjoy the job at all. I know that is a weak explanation, but thats the truth. My heart was just not into it.
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    Job 3: Left because the owner was a legit r . We drove along a street with other residential construction projects and he legit said in this exact phrase "That is the 'D ]' operation. They should be ashamed of themselves of the work they put out."
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    Job 4: This job that the post references. So this is just to explain that I have not been fired once. Never. I chose to leave. And the comment of the educational background thing just hurt. I was a bad student. I know that. But I didn't think personal attacks were on the menu.
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    I wish I could tell you I told him off further. I wish that I could tell you that I stood up against him again, but I didn't. I decided to just wish him the best and I deleted his texts (like an idiot) and blocked his number.
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    So that means that I may have accidentally tied my hands. behind my back when trying to pursue legal action, but I don't think I am going to. I think at most, I will file a complaint for shady business practices. Practices that include:
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    • Late paychecks. • Missing wages. Missing mileage reimbursements. • PAYING EXACT HOURLY WAGES. NO TAXES. Which has also been a huge form of anxiety. I want to file a complaint, but also do not have the funds to cover any missing tax amounts.
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    I am listing this information, because I don't have any legal knowledge, and maybe someone can direct me in the right direction.
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    nautilator44 Hit him with the "I need more from leadership to justify my time"
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