Unemployed 20-year-old son refuses to pay parents back after he uses their emergency credit card while they are on vacation, they kick him out in response: 'He left without a word'

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    AITA: son moved out but is telling everyone we kicked him out?

    Son (20M) isn't in college. We told him the fall after high school that we would "charge him rent" of $500/mo.
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    That money would be put into a savings account for him, and then when he was ready to move out he would have a nice nest egg to start adulting with.
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    Last summer I left him my credit card "for emergencies" while we went away on vacation.
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    He spent $3k on clothes, food, etc while we were gone. Obviously none of the purchases were an emergency.
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    And no, he didn't have permission. We told him he needed to pay us back. He didn't.
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    He also barely ever paid the $500/mo "rent". This April we told him he had three months to pay us back half of the money he stole (so $1500) or he had to move out.
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    May comes, he pays nothing. June comes, he pays nothing. I said "are you looking for a new apartment?
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    Because your deadline to pay us back is 1 month away". He started screaming that he was moving out.
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    The next morning he and his gf (she was basically living here too) left without a word and haven't been back since (this was July).
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    He stopped by one time to pick up some clothes and his PlayStation and he didn't speak to us while here.
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    We are still paying his cell phone bill. We stopped paying his car insurance after he moved out.
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    He barely responds to text messages from me or his dad. I found out he is telling everyone that we kicked him out?
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    I honestly didn't think we were being very strict. But the fact that he basically won't talk to us now, clearly means he thinks we were aholes?
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    Were we?! update I'm new-ish to Reddit, so had no idea there would be this much response.
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    I'm not going through 800+ comments. But to answer the questions I saw repeatedly from the responses I did read: He has a job, and has since he was 16 (part-time).
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    He doesn't stay in jobs long, 3mo - 1 year is typical for him. He makes $15-$22/hr at his jobs.
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    He has only worked full time for a few months, he was regularly working 25-35 hours per week since high school finished.
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    We have a family cell phone plan, it would actually cost me more money to cancel his phone than to just keep paying.
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    Plus, he can't get job interviews without a phone. We live in a state that doesn't require auto insurance, so he will not be fined if he doesn't provide his own.
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    I signed the car over to him when he left, so my name is no longer on the car.
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    I left the credit card for emergencies with the example of “if the water heater explodes, use this to pay the plumber".
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    I also left $100 in cash to be used if food ran out (but also had groceries delivered while we were away).
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    I can accept that I did, in fact, kick him out. And that we have enabled him to behave this way.
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    Thanks for everyone's replies!
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    Imaginary-Yak-6487 Stop paying the phone too.
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    Traditional-Eye-7230 NTA. With a kid like this, it had to happen sooner or later. Better sooner. Stop paying his cell phone bill next.
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    Traepeezy Why on earth are you still paying the phone bill!? I don't know the dynamic but I can tell you he'd be missing a lot of things if somebody stole $3,000 from me. I'm rich by no means and I'd be on Facebook Marketplace with everythiiiiiiing. This kid clearly doesn't care about you and/or working and has already proven to not be trusted. He's 20!? Then who cares about what he says. A 20-year-old complaining about getting kicked out of their parents home is wild
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    Chicago White Sox35 NTA. Change the locks. Stop paying his phone bill. He stole a lot of money from you didn't bother trying to pay it back. Let him take that attitude elsewhere.
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    hopingtothrive >This April we told him he had three months to pay us back half of the money he stole (so $1500) or he had to move out. You did kick him out. Good for you. You stood up to him and kicked him out when he didn't pay, like an eviction. NTA
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    OGRealityCheck NTA, you didn't kick him out, he left on his own and then returned to retrieve more items. You should change the locks if you haven't done so already. He stole $3K without paying it back, what's to stop him from pawning some of your stuff the next time? Also, in case you didn't already, report that credit card as misplaced (lost/stolen) so that you're issued a new credit card number. That way he can't use that number again if he had it saved somewhere.
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    grayblue_grrl NTA. Stop paying the phone bill. And if anyone accuses you - tell them about abusing your credit card. Not paying rent. Having his gf live with him and no payment. We said pay or get out, so he left. Boy apparently needs to learn the hard way.
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    Impossible_Street614 Sometimes, you have to be cruel to be kind. He seems to have an unhealthy dose of self entitlement that will not do anyone any good. Especially not him in the long term. You can't stop what he says to people. People who know you will understand what has happened. The people who don't know you. Their opinions are secondary to teaching your son a life lesson
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