Pro Revenge: Karen And Kevin Win The Battle, Lose The War

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mattstaff
May 11, 2020 8:00 AM EDT

Man, oh, man, Karen was in dire need of the reality check. With all the subordination at play, it's a wonder how she thought it wouldn't eventually backfire on her. What a fine example of how one can win the "battle", but certainly go on to lose the war. Can just picture Karen and Kevin squirming in their seats. 

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    Text - r/ProRevenge + JOIN u/fatjokesonme • 22h 1 3 2 The story about Karen and Kevin who won a battle, and lost the war. This story is a bit of malicious compliance with a lot of ongoing revenge, so I chose to post it here. First the regular stupid warning for all you OCD's: ON MOBILE, ENGLISH IS NOT MY LANGUAGE, LONG STORY NO TL;DR. Go have fun with someone else. Second: this story involves legal issues, so names and identifying details were changed.
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    Text - And now for the fun part: This story if about 5 years old, and some of it, as you will read in the end, is still rolling, probably will for a long time. It starts with mrs. P, as principal, because that's what she is. Mrs. P started as a special needs kids care taker, study through the years of work, and graduated a doctorate in special education. After 20 years of experience in this, she was asked by the council of a medium size city to open and run a new special need school in the city.
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    Text - She accepted the offer, and after 4 years she had a school with 150 kids in it, for special education school, that is HUGE number. Such schools need way more people than regular school, not just teachers, but also other care takers, and the job isn't always clean and easy. So naturally mrs. P is always looking to hire.
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    Text - Than comes Karen. Karen just finished her college, and got a degree in education consulting top of her class. Her professor was on mrs. P school board, and she recommended her with very warm words, Karen was basically hired beafore she even sent her resume. Karen is married to Kevin (ofcourse), who finished his law studies top 5 in his class, and now doing his internship in a big law firm, awaiting his license to practice the law. Basically their future is laid bright and clear, all they
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    Text - Mrs. P accepted Karen to work in the school, and announced her she will start to work in August 20, about a week before the school year starts, as the staff needs to organize the school for the opening of the school year. Karen protest that she is a consultant, not another low life that comes to mop the floor. Mrs. P is pissed by this attitude, but karen is top of her class and supposedly the best in the field, so she just smiles and say "staff starts to work on August 20, you are staff t
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    Text - That pre-opening week the staff will never forget. While teachers and nurses and other members all worked together hard to get the school up to shape, including painting the walls, setting equipment, and other choirs you don't learn in college, Karen fixed her own room, sat in it all day and played with her phone. Needless to say she wasn't very popular among school staff. But time went on, school opened on time, and things started to get into their regular routine. Karen was causing more
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    Text - professor, the one who gave Karen her degree, the one who was on the school's board, to sit with Karen daily and couch her how to actually work and function in a real school environment, as apparently she didn't learn that in college. But even that didn't help. Karen was hated by all the school staff, and helr work was done poorly and getting worse every week. Mrs. P had a meeting every week with Karen and the professor to discuss her performance and how to do better. Meanwhile important
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    Text - aware of the issues. A meeting was set with the board, mrs. P and Karen, the professor promised karen that if she will set order to her paperwork and act respectfully, it will be alright. Karen knew she was on the hook now, but just couldn't stop being a karen. So the day of the meeting comes, and Karen is a no-show, no call. She just didn't come that day, and the day after, and the week after. Without Karen, the board can only hear what mrs. P has to say, but they already know it, so the
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    Text - explanation to not get fired now. She calls Karen and leaves a message in her voicemail, that she hadn't heard from her in over a week, she is very worried, and please be in contact ASAP as finance want to cut her pay. Finally Karen called in! She has been sick the whole time... she will return to work in 2 days. Good, mrs. P mark the date and set a meeting with the professor and Karen first thing in the morning. If karen is sick and has a doctor's note, she will not be fired, but she wil
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    Text - Karen shows up 2 hours late, and mrs. P calls her to a meeting immediately, beafore anything else. She calls the professor to come, the professor cancelled other plans she had to come in, and the meeting finally starts 3 hours late. Thankfully Karen had a doctor's note, she is OK on that, but she is going to get the strong words talking now. About ten minutes into the meeting, Karen burst in tears. The meeting is stopped to cool things down, but not over yet. After a few minutes everybody
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    Text - and the professor comment "as a board member I must say: as long as you are sick your job is safe, but it is your first year, you have not saved anything in sick days or vacation days. You will not be paid for this." Karen just said "we will see about that", collect her things and left.
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    Text - Karen is sick for another two weeks, and her position is vacant. Mrs. P does what she can to fill the void, as do others, but its clear a man in missing and the position needs to be filled. Eventually mrs. P calls Karen again to ask her how she is and when she will be back, when Karen says she can't handle the pressure and wants to quit. Mrs. P is stunned by this. Karen is only in her first year, quitting in the middle will risk her future, and finding another consultant in the middle of
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    Text - But Karen doesn't come back, and after two more weeks of absence her husband call in, to ask why no money is payed. He gets the obvious answer, Karen has no right to payed sick leave, he gets angry and promises to check his options, which in lawyers terms is "I want to sue you". Now it's clear that the bridge was burned and Karen will not be back. Mrs. P started looking for replacement, and the options aren't great. Eventually she convinced a retired consultant to come back from retiremen
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    Text - this year. The replacement starts working, but can't get payed, the position is still officially occupied by Karen, who is still on sick leave. Board members are now calling Karen, as it's clear she will not talk to mrs. P. They ask her to come back, and when she refuse, they ask her to submit her resignation, to allow them to keep the school running. Karen claims she is ready to come back only if she will be paid for all her sick leave, but nobody's willing to pay that. The mess is growi
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    Text - Karen cannot sue the school or the city while she sick or still registered as an employee, she has to stop one of these conditions. The day after Karen is at school with a standard resignation letter, stating her "mental and health issues caused by the toxic environment" as her reasons. Finally after more than 2 months the position is clear and filled right away. still What was just rumours by now has become fact, parents were aware that something went on. Finally in a group chat of paren
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    Text - Kevin did try to sue the city, it went to mediation beafore court hearing. The mediator saw the material and strongly advised Kevin do withdraw. Kevin listened and the whole thing was forgotten for a while. 3 months passed. School was doing okay, when an email from Karen landed in mrs. P inbox. In short dry, legal language Karen informs mrs. P that she knows she was slandering her in public, she has screenshots as
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    Text - evidence that she claimed she had a mental issues, and that is all not true at all. Karen demand mrs. P to apologize in public and clarify that Karen did not had any mental issues, and her resignation was due to "professional disputes ". Mrs. P was shocked. She knew for a fact that Karen was, let's just say, not 100 percent okay up there, and she had her resignation letter to prove it, going this way from Karen was beyond stupid. Mrs. P however, did the right thing and sent the letter the
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    Text - demanded mrs. P to just apologize and let it all be gone , but mrs. P was not willing to admit wrong doing of anything, as she knew she did everything right. The board kept his opinion, claimed mrs. P is being pointlessly stubborn, and they will not cover any legal matters in that issues, which is against mrs. P contrac, all legal liability that she has within her work should be covered by her employer. That meant her job was on the line now, and mrs. P was determined to fight back and wi
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    Text - Mrs. P went again to the parents forum, let them know that she had some personal legal issues, and asked if they know who could help. One of the parents, a lawyer, agreed to help without pay. (Note it is highly unprofessional to ask parents to help in personal issues, but it wasn't really a personal issue, it was the school issue, and that lawyers parent noted that after
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    Text - he was informed the details.) The lawyer agreed Karen and Kevin had no ground to sue, but said that if they sent the email, their intention is to sue anyway, and nothing mrs. P would do will stop them, so it was better if mrs. P just ignore it and let them dig their own grave. And digging they dug. A week after the first letter, a new letter arrived, by regular mail, in an envelope. It was printed on Kevin's law firm letter, stating that matter should be resolved by public apology, or the
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    Text - Even the lawyer did not believe someone in a large prestige law firm is that dumb, but here the letter is to Prove it... a trial will take time and will cost money, even if he is doing it for free, not to mention that mrs. P would be fired no matter the result. They had to find another solution! The lawyer figured out that stupid people need stupid solution, he thought about it for a while, and than remembere he had a classmate in college who went working for that firm. He called that cla
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    Text - surprised. He hadn't heard about this case, and he should have, as lawyers in large firms gossip like old women, and a slander suit against special education school? It's the most raunchy gossip in town! But also a PR nightmare, he, and other partners, would never take
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    Text - a case like this, it will make them look like greedy lawyers who would skin off anybody for a penny, not good publicity. He promised to look around and check what is going on in the firm. It didn't take him long, the next day he called the lawyer back. He found out no lawyer in the firm was aware of the case, he figured Kevin used the firm paper to send the letter, but no lawyer above him was involved. Good news for our lawyer! Together they planned the right answer to Kevin and Karen, th
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    Text - The lawyer called mrs. P and told her his plan. It was easy, simple and malicious. She didn't like it, but agreed to it as it was the best and fast way to resolve the situation. Next thing the lawyer drafted his "settlement agreement", he called Kevin and asked him if it will do. The agreement stated that mrs. P will apologize to Karen "in the most public way she can" and will post all the legally related papers alongside the apology in the school webpage. The agreement stated that the ap
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    Text - again, and will have no further demands from mrs. P or the school ever again. The last clouse stated that if any unrelated issues will come of this agreement, Karen and Kevin will be liable for any consequences and the school can demand any losses it suffers from them. Kevin agreed to all the terms, within 2 hours Karen and Kevin signed the agreement, and the next stage was ready to launch. The lawyer came to mrs. P office with the equipment he needed and the apology transcript. He set a
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    Text - far in her career, her degrees and recommendation. She also made an introduction to Karen, her career so far, her degree and recommendation (none, so far). And after the introduction she explained that Karen claims she left the school in the middle of the school year because of "professional disagreement", and any other comment mrs. P or any other have claimed about Karen health and mental issues if false and mrs. P is sorry if Karen or anybody else heard so and if Karen's feelings were h
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    Text - the school YouTube channel, and a sub site under the school website was created showing the video and all the related documents, including the threatening letter Kevin sent in his firm paper. A link was sent to Kevin with the short line: "that settle the matter, don't contact us ever again." Karen and Kevin has won the battle. A month passed, and Kevin suddenly got fired from his firm. Apparently he wasn't in a position to send a letter threatening lawsuit under the firm paper without any
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    Text - The firm sent a letter to the school admitting the fraud and asking the school to remove the threatening letter Kevin sent. The school graciously agreed and Kevin's letter was removed, but the firm letter, admitting Kevin's fraud was published instead. Kevin was done in the business. Any lawyer who he came to look for a job asked him why he "left" the big firm beafore he got even past the first stage, and a simple search of his name showed he committed fraud, against a special education s
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    Text - Meanwhile Karen kept looking for a job in her field. She had to wait until a new school year will begin. Her college professor was not willing to write her any recommendation, and she had to explain the missing year in her resume to any principal. Few school principals heard she worked with mrs. P and called her to ask about Karen, which mrs. P only said that due to legal issues she can't talk about Karen, and it is all explained in the "legal" section of the school website.
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    Text - That was enough, any principal who knows Karen suede her former school will not dare to hire her. Karen lost that school year, and to support herself began looking for other jobs. She found a job as a secritay in an office that didn't Google searched her name and worked there for a couple of month, until the manager got bored one day and decided to search Karen's name. She was fired the next day for a minor F-up. It is more than 5 years since it happened. Kevin is a lawyer in a sleazy fir
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    Text - They both know very well why they are doing so poorly in life. Kevin sent another threatening letter demanding to remove all mentions of his name and Karen name from the school website. He also asked to remove the video. The lawyer just told him that it is what he agreed on, and if he wants to re negotiate he will demand Kevin to pay for damages. He didn't specify what damages, and Kevin didn't ask, he gave up, Karen and Kevin admitted defeat, they lost the war. Mrs. P eventually removed
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