'You can't do this to me': New manager demands employee cancel $6,000 vacation following company layoffs, then refuse to reimburse them

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    R in SE ** --- E "Well, what do you expect me to do now?" WEEDE TEEN A ::
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    Approved PTO revoked last minute
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    tldr; PTO that had been approved for months by multiple bosses got pulled at the last minute, after already putting thousands into the trip. I work remotely as a software engineer at a company with "unlimited PTO". Around last October I started to plan a trip of a lifetime. It
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    consists of a 3 week vacation up front, followed by 5 weeks of working remotely from this other country. Before booking anything, I ran this by my boss multiple times, who not only approved it but was excited for me to go.
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    I planned the time of the trip around a major project that had an "immovable" (but near impossible) deadline of mid January. Since late September our team has been working extra hours to try to achieve this deadline. I've only taken off 2 days for Christmas and 1 day for
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    Thanksgiving in that time, and have worked the majority of the weekends. A week before the planned release of this project there was a round of layoffs, including my boss who had approved the PTO. Along with that, the "immovable" deadline was moved to near my trip date. That same week
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    I had a 1-on-1 with my new boss and I told them my plan for the trip, they agreed with it all and said that it won't be a problem. After that is when I started to actually book everything for the trip (I only had the flight and 1 airbnb booked before), and now I've invested $6k into this trip.
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    Yesterday I got a random call from my new boss saying that I can no longer do any of the trip. On top of that they say that we'll be lucky to be able to get a single week of PTO through the end of the summer. This company (particularly the CEO) seems to base performance solely on the amount of
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    hours that somebody works, not the quality or speed of their work. I realize that 3 weeks is a long vacation, but I have had hardly any time off since I started this job a year ago, and it had been approved by multiple bosses for months. I've already decided that I'm going to
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    search for something else, as this is just one in a series of rug-pulls and problems that have happened in my time here. A good amount of that 6k is still refundable, but I'll still be out thousands if everything is canceled.
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    Unsure what to do next, the only thing keeping me from leaving the job right now is how rough the market is. I don't know if I'll ever have the opportunity to do this trip ever again in the future.
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    aurumvorax 14 hr. ago You go on your trip, and you enjoy it. If you need to find a new job when you get back, so be it.
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    Averagesmoker42. 13 hr. ago This right here is the right answer.
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    Frustratedtx · 9 hr. ago You may have a claim for detrimental reliance. You relied on the PTO approval only for it to be rescinded long after you spent the money. You may want to talk to a labor lawyer.
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    AnOma7y - 12 hr. ago TAKE THE TRIP! Do not quit, keep records of anything saying it was approved. Enjoy the time away. You work to take trips like this. Not to just keep working with no enjoyment of life.
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    Away_Tumbleweed_6609. 11 hr. ago Inform them that you require 2 months notice for cancellation of planned PTO and go on your trip
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    Nevermind04 · 11 hr. ago Don't quit. You informed them of your availability during your PTO and they acknowledged they understood. End of story. You can always get a new job but this sounds like a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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    Triple-1 7 hr. ago Right - no need to quit, but take the trip. Be respectful about everything with everyone, and just refer to the money spent, plans made and approval given.
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    Fixerguy4158 hr. ago Hey boss... Does the term Detrimental Reliance mean anything to you? BTW, based upon the long string of prior approvals, including yours, I've already spent over $10k setting this trip up so... PREPARE THE OTHERS for my absence.
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    Current_Brick5305 11 hr. ago If you,ve been reading this sub then you already know the answer. Life is too short to let someone else control it. F k em. Enjoy yr trip n don,t look back. You were looking for a job when you found that one.
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    Lazerah · 7 hr. ago "I'll cancel it if you reimburse won't. me in full" They
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    globalcitizen35 8 hr. ago It was approved. If they change that, they can reimburse you. PTO is polite notification you won't be there at that time. Their disorganisation is not your financial responsibility.
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    Washington_Dad__ · 6 hr. ago Get a personal copy of all the approvals AND the unlimited time off policy. Worse case scenario- they fire you right before or after you quit at which point you can file unemployment and lawyer up.
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    Garzhvog86 6 hr. ago Your bosses know they f ked up which means they know you are going to look for a new job which means they are going to find a reason to replace you. Go on your trip and find a new job. If you do not go you are going to end
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    up in the same situation of not having a job but also will have missed the trip of a lifetime. Fk these pieces of s t live your life.
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    oobatubaa · 9 hr. ago take the trip. even if you end up losing your job, some things are worth it.
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    brawl · 6 hr. ago your options are don't take the trip, work for a new boss that doesn't care about your life goals and previous approved arrangements months in advance and eventually quit or get fired, always regretting never leaving,
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    or... Live your life the way you planned it and get rid of places that don't value you the same way you valued them.
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    alejandrowoodman - 4 hr. ago start applying for new jobs now. Take the vacation with a starting date for a new job 1 week after.

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