Woman finds out she’s not part of the boys’ club when her all-male team plans a Cabo getaway without her, leaving her to process their expense reports and her own exclusion: ‘ I thought I was a part of their team, but it’s now clear that I’m not’

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  • "My Team Is Going to Cabo And I Wasn’t Invited"

    "We're the 'hired help.' We're never seen as part of the team"
  • My team (a group of men except me) did really well last year. As a reward, we get a 4-day team trip. This is the first year since I've been here where a trip has been offered. The trip this year is to Cabo. I was so excited until it
  • became clear to me that I wasn't invited. The Managing Director of that team (the executive I directly support) never outright told me I was or wasn't invited. But has already booked flights, hotels and activities for the rest of my team members.
  • NO GIRLS ALLOWED IN THE TREEHOUSE!!!

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  • Yesterday afternoon, I received that Managing Director's expense report to review and forward and all of the airfare for my team (and their plus one's) was on there. It's against company policy to seek
  • reimbursement for future travel and instead of coming to my desk to tell me to my face that I'm not invited, he pushed back on my denial of those line items and asked me to push it through "because it's $11,000".
  • You can't sit with us

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  • I'm hurt, embarrassed and sad. Do I just try to let it go? I've cried so much. I left my previous job at a law firm, supporting a CEO, in- part because of the accepted and
  • normalized segregation. I get along with my team members and we socialize in and outside of the office. I thought I was apart of their team, but it's now clear that I'm not.
  • KetoLurkerHereAgain Unfortunately, a lot of orgs, or just depts within orgs, will never see "the assistant" as part of the team. Oh, you'll do the work, but they don't really see you as equal. You're the help. I'm sorry because that's blunt but that's what this looks like.
  • ScreenNames_AreHard That s ks... but to be honest... I wouldn't want to go on a team trip... having to be "on" all the time. Best behavior.... Even if it is Cabo. Plus I don't want my coworkers to see me in a bathing suit (even if I had a killer body). Think of it as a vacation from your team... it's a good thing. I barely want to go to holiday parties with my team. They are nice but 2 hours is enough...
  • rnochick It s ks & I'm sorry. I am often invited to events only because I'm doing all of the organizing and legwork. I was recently uninvited to the Christmas dinner at a posh restaurant & night stay at the hotel it was held. It was hurtful & r de because it was a thank you to the team for all the hard work & I thought I was a part of it.
  • graceoftrees Its It s ks, admins are not included in award trips that their bosses or teams win at my org either.
  • Banjosolo69 When you say "we get a 4-day team trip" does that mean the company grants it to the whole department or is it up to the department to decide who gets to go? If you are part of that team, I can see how incredibly unfair and hurtful it is that they didn't include you. A lot of people don't see EAs as value-adders to a team, just a benign accessory.
  • wildfairytale Are we not going to talk about the company policy being violated? That's wild that they'd push back on it, sounds like something I'd run up the flag pole
  • gew114 Every single person at my company (small 15 people) is a male, every single one, even the unpaid intern got a $600 tie, I got an "oops sorry I didn't get you anything"
  • Zealousideallmage575 I've been the only woman on several teams, so I understand the frustration on that point. I ask this respectfully, what indicators did the give that you may be included? How have you been included in the past? Is it worth asking why you were overlooked?
  • Squirrel_Bait321 We're never seen as part of the team. It's so sad and is disgusting. Were the "hired help". Why would we be worthy to go with the "team?" I was an EA for many many years. I don't know what it will take to be seen any differently unless we negotiate during the interview of our expectations of being included and it's in writing. Ugh.
  • Substantial-Bet-4775 I've never been invited on a trip unless I was part of the organization and needed to do some work on the ground during the trip. It wouldn't even occur to me to be invited. While I am a part of a team with the execs I work with, I'm not a part of the team in a way that my direct work contributed to the funds coming
  • in, which it sounds like this is why it was rewarded. I know what we do allows for more of that kind of work to be done, but it's on an indirect level. Does it stink? Yes, but to me that's just the situation. If you were given an indication that you would be included but then was not, that might be a different and very hurtful situation to me.
  • Wide_Statistician_95 Well now you know where you stand. Rethink how hard you work for them. Above and beyond is over. I walked into an offsite high end restaurant team dinner of all my team members eating with a few of the executives, and I was the
  • only one not invited (I wasn't an EA), we were all peers and the execs were visiting town. I just happened to be there for a happy hour. Clearly a plan had been in place. It was humiliating as they attempted to invite me to sit at a weird corner chair they drug over. I walked out. I'm too old for this sh...
  • giantpanda25 This is wild to me and so awful! My department I support and book events and activities for, always include me! Thursday we had a bowling event and people kept coming up to me and asking if I able to relax and have fun and if they could help in anyway so I
  • could also enjoy myself. I've even been "adopted" by some of our sub-teams for monthly events like drinks after work, swag. I always joke that they do all the important stuff and I'm just “around” but they make sure and tell me how much they appreciate my efforts into making their work days more enjoyable. I would be heartbroken if I was you. :(
  • Affectionate-Owl7257 I'm so sorry you've had to experience this, people can be so mean

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