Father refuses to force his 5-year-old and 9-year-old kids to accept his mother's unpleasant, unreliable boyfriend: ‘That wasn't up for discussion’

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  • "I told her that we would never force our children to like him or spend time with him if they didn't want to...”
  • "AITA for not making any efforts to get my kids to like my mother's boyfriend?"

    My (36M) father passed away when I was 20, and my mother didn't cope well. She got better with time, but she didn't attempt to pursue another relationship until 15 years later. She has been dating "Jim" for two years.
  • I don't hate Jim, but I don't like him either. He drinks a lot (my mother has had to cancel on us several times because he was dr k), has made several offensive jokes to my brother
  • (43M) that I didn't appreciate, and is overall a pretty unpleasant person to be around. Still, he seems to genuinely love my mother and makes her happy, so my brother and I don't interfere.
  • One problem I do have with the relationship is that my mother has been trying to get my children (9M and 5F) to form a "grandparent bond" with Jim.
  • He's also been trying to take on a grandfather role, which neither me nor my wife (34F) want for the kids. They don't try to push boundaries too much, but we've had some minor arguments in the past.
  • Anyway, my daughter had her first ever dance recital last December. There was a limit of four guests per child. The kids usually ask us to invite one of their grandparents to events like
  • this, but my mother was out of town (I didn't even ask her) and my in-laws were busy. Instead, my daughter invited my brother to join me, my wife and our son.
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  • My mother and Jim came to visit us during the weekend, and she saw pictures from the recital for the first time in a photo album.
  • She asked why my brother was there and not her, and I reminded her she was traveling at the time. She said, "Well, Jim was in town."
  • I'll be honest, we didn't even think of inviting Jim back in December, and neither did my kids. I told my mother that it was my daughter who chose to invite her uncle, and we respected that.
  • Then Jim turned to my daughter and told her that she could invite him next time grandma wasn't around. My wife chimed in and said she could invite whoever she wanted.
  • After they left, my mother called me. She said she was upset that we weren't making any efforts to welcome Jim into the family, and we were depriving our children of a wonderful grandfather. I told
  • her that we would never force our children to like him or spend time with him if they didn't want to, and that wasn't up for discussion. We ended up having an argument over this before I hung up on her.
  • I spoke with a few family members yesterday who think I'm being too harsh on Jim. So AITA?
  • Imaginary-Colleg... NTA I hate hate HATE when adults try to force kids into having any sort of relationship with other adults. LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE. This is how you foster resentful feelings in children and teach them that their feelings and decisions don't matter.
  • LeaJadis NTAH, honestly I'd be more blunt with your mom and stop telling her it was your daughter's choice. Tell your mom that you can't trust an al olic and you only put up with him because of your mom. If she's not around to wrangle him then he's not invited. period. you don't trust him around the kids.
  • AgonistPhD You don't seem to be harsh on Jim at all, though? You're just letting people pick who they're close to without trying to move them around like figurines. That's good parenting, imo. NTA.
  • lavenderqueen6 NTA at all. Your kids are allowed to have their own thoughts and feelings and can form bonds as they see fit!
  • SalisburyWitch NTA. So your mother is calling in the flying monkeys. already? Tell her that you'll invite who you want to things. You don't know when Jim is drinking.

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