Overworked employee overhears bosses gossip about remote workers, sparking office discourse: 'They're the ones actually doing the work'

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    A man sits in front of a laptop computer in an office.
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    "I accidentally overheard what the execs say about remote workers."

    We had an all-hands meeting that ended late, and a few of us forgot to leave the call right away. Two executives didn't realize people were still on and started chatting casually.
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    One said, "Remote people are fine, but they're just not as visible. Hard to promote someone you never see."
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    The other replied, "Yeah, but they're the ones actually doing the work."
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    It was this awkward pause where both of them kind of laughed but didn't disagree.
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    It just confirmed what I've felt for a while, remote workers get things done, but office presence still gets rewarded. Visibility shouldn't be the metric. Results should.
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    An employee scrolls on another coworker's phone in an office environment.
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    Vegetable-Key4397 5h ago I once had a boss say, "You can't promote someone you don't bump into in the hallway." Like sir, I'm not your hallway crush, I'm your best performer.
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    fisherman105 • 5h ago Then they mentioned op by name, gave him a cookie and a raise
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    Fabulously-humble • 17m ago It's relationships. It was relationships. It is relationships. It will be relationships.
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    Bosses are humans too. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make it untrue. If you are qualified for a promotion AND you have a good relationship with trust
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    behind it you will be promoted over someone equally qualified who doesn't have the same level of relationship. It's an inconvenient truth.
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    radek432 5h ago You don't have to be in the office to be "visible"
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    • _esp _ · 3h ago Once my company announced we were permanent wfh, with suggested office presence, everyone was legit told those with an office presence would be the ones promoted. Ridiculous!
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    LuxieBuxie • 49m ago . Visibility AND kiss a always wins you the ery promotion. Being friends or family doesn't hurt either
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    eaa61 43m ago This explains how they received their promotions. Not through performance but by hanging with their boss.
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    Yeti_bigfoot • 5h ago I'm more surprised senior managers had figured that out
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    Ourcheeseboat · 4h ago That is human nature, the person you see and know are the ones a you trust. This is just going to be one of the downsides of remote work unless the whole company is remote.
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    A group of employees sitting around a wooden table in an office.

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