UPDATE: Boss tells employee to 'stick to their contract' after denying them a raise, then complains they're not doing extra: 'I'm about to reply with a screenshot'

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  • [UPDATE] My boss told me to "stick to my contract" after denying a raise. The fallout was even faster than I expected.

    Sorry for the delay and for the original post getting removed by the mods. i wasn't ignoring the comments, my slack was literally blowing up and i had to spend half the day in meetigs with HR and the director, so reddit was the last thing on my mind.
  • For those who missed the first post, i asked for a raise, my boss told me to focus on core responsibilities in your contract, so i stopped doing all the seniorlevel architecture and client reporting i'd been covering for months.
  • the 9am meeting this morning was a disaster for him. he ended up looking like an idiot in front of the director because the client data wasn't ready. he actually tried to throw me under the bus right there on the call, but i had the receipts ready. i just calmly told the director that i was following my manager's explicit instructions from earlier this week to prioritize my contract duties over external projects.
  • management tried to bring up the "other duties as assigned" clause in my contract later that afternoon. i pointed out that "other duties" doesn't mean "permanently absorbing a senior dev's entire workload for zero extra pay." - not that aggressively but that was what i meant.
  • They haven't fired me. they literally can't because it's still just me and two interns who have no idea how the legacy code works. instead, they've scheduled a "role re-evaluation" for monday morning. it feels like they finally realized they can't bully me into doing two jobs for one salary anymore.
  • I'm still applying elsewhere because this place is a sinking ship, but man, it feels good to finally just do the job i'm actually paid for.
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    [deleted] I'm really interested in seeing the update to this update, because "role re- evaluation" realllllly sounds like a fancy way of saying "evaluating whether we should or shouldn't fire you". Never underestimate the stupidity of someone higher up with a stick up their ass and an axe to grind
  • Freakychee "Other duties when assigned", "Any other task instructed by immediate supervisor" and the like I hate it so much and think those should be illegal. It completely destroys the purpose of a job description.
  • Imagine if other contracts worked that way, I pay my phone bill but the agreement had "any other task I require" and ask my phone company to clean my garage. It's fucking bullshit.
  • Beetlejuice_me I used to work for this decent company with a really shitty IT department in Texas. 3 support people for 1200 employees. Anyway, they fired the help desk after they got a f you quote for the contract renewal (the manager who dealt with the help desk was a nutter so they wanted out of the contract, thus the FU pricing).
  • So they didn't renew and had us 2nd level support guys answer phones. I asked in the meeting "who will answer the phones?" and they did the "we're looking at options". I pressed on the "ok, so on Monday, who will pick answer the phones when someone calls the help desk".
  • "Weeell... it'll be you guys". Riiiight, so obviously I ignored the phones because I had my own job to do. Then I get told that my performance review will suffer, and I'm like "but I am doing my job. I am not hired to be help desk, so why does that affect my performance review?".
  • Of course it was "other duties as assigned" - even when those duties would make me fail at my actual job I was hired for. So I kept ignoring the phones, and did my job, and the second I was fully vested with my 401k, I gave my notice.
  • tranquilovely if they are this shitty. you better hope they dont reevaluate your duties and say "this is your new job duties" with no extra pay still. best of luck
  • jonathantg35 do as little as possible for as long as possible. They'll get what they pay for
  • Kesterlath I hope you say "I will be happy to move into the senior dev position with the appropriate salary negotiation that will be applicable. That will free up a junior position for you to hire for, which is significantly easier to fill. Failing that, I will continue to do the job as my original contract stated. Thank you."
  • And then if they don't give you the senior dev position, leave. Let them sink in their own pool of stupidity.
  • DaZMan44 If they're THAT lost without you, quit and offer your services as a consultant while you look for another job
  • searing7 Sounds good I guess but you're more likely to get canned and any promotion you get after pulling this is just until they can replace you. Just find a new job and leave
  • CP_Chronicler I'm sorry and just so you know this is literally the majority of companies out there. For anyone who needs validation, most managers and I'd say all of HR are scummy weasels that produce no value for a company but take credit for it anyways. Good luck.
  • Interesting-Yello... Yeah that "other duties" clause is in every contract and doesn't mean shit. Wish there was some law that prohibited even including it, it just adds confusion in cases like this.
  • Acinixys If they offer you a raise take it Will help your job hunt You can always leave anyway if something better comes along
  • bit-by-a-moose I wouldn't touch that contract you negociated. I wouldn't touch anything that isn't substantial, concrete and immediate. "Substantial pay bump in the future" is too vague.
  • Even if the amount was stated and even an implementation date, it sounds more like a delay tactic. They don't have to give you a raise if the fire you. I want the raise now. I want it substantial because I fully expect them to make my life hell then let me go.
  • pepcorn it feels like they finally realized they can't bully me into doing two jobs for one salary anymore. I think that's exactly what they're going to try and bully you into. Or, offer an insultingly low raise.
  • RedditLeagueAcc... Definitely keep job hunting. Even if there is a role re- evaluation that comes with a promotion, they will be looking for an excuse to fire you. The only roadblock will be them on boarding someone else to replace you. Even if here is no replacement, people have been offended and there is potential retaliation so the work environment wont be good.
  • The only other possibility is to make sure to keep documenting/recording and getting the people who triggered the clash to get fired. You don't both get to stay there.
  • karonic114 Crazy that they're gonna use just doing the job they're paying you for as an excuse to not give you more money.
  • NotTobyFromHR They'll bump you up a bit, then start looking for your replacement. Right or not, your boss looked like an idiot and I doubt someone like him is going to just smile and let you "win". Continue job hunting

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