Disgruntled employees discuss the fallacy that is unlimited PTO: ‘It's only unlimited PTO on paper’

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  • An employee on vacation, using their laptop against a flush landscape.
  • "Those with Unlimited PTO. Have you tried taking every Friday off?"

    How did that work out for you? Or Why aren't you doing that? I still have accrued PTO.
  • Near the end of the year I take off every Friday to burn hours to stay below the PTO earnings cap.
  • nyjets239 Never take Friday's off. Most people do very little or nothing on Friday's anyways. Better to take a Monday off to have an extended weekend.
  • OP centstwo That is true. On Friday most people leave early like you said. Friday is the easiest day.
  • Comprehensive Gap131 We've had "unlimited vacation" in the past 2 years, I looked at my record to see how many time days I took off and both years was 13 days. Before unlimited vacation I had 15 days vacation!
  • FightingHellfish12 Unlimited PTO is a scam to get people to take less time off, not more. If you tried this you would be fired at 99% of companies.
  • joselito0034 I used to be a manager for a team. We had unlimited PTO and I would make everyone take time off in turns. HR used to get on my ass all the time. Good times. You had to take a month minimum a year with me.
  • EyeConscious857 Last year I took every other Friday and Monday off for November and December and into the first week of January. So I had 4 day work weeks and every other weekend was a 4 day weekend. It was nice.
  • Wondering_Electron We have 45 days off. It's easier this way. We HAVE TO take the time off, we're encouraged to because any carry over remains in the wrong column on the company's balance sheet.
  • Xanikk999 Its only unlimited PTO on paper. In reality you will be fired just like at any other job if you are absent too much. At the very least those other companies are being. honest about it.
  • BigShiz1 I have unlimited PTO. I don't take off every Friday because I don't see a need to and there's always something to be done. I do use a lot of time off though. Mental health days, vacations, sick days, moving days, etc etc.
  • Potential_Lie2302 My wife took 6weeks of vacation at her company that has "Unlimited PTO." She was told that she took too much PTO, she was asked to never do that again, and her name was submitted to exec mgmt along with other people who were taking too much PTO. They then stopped calling it. Unlimited PTO and started referring to it as Flexible PTO.
  • A woman uses her laptop, holding her head out of stress.
  • juliusseizure Unlimited PTO is usually a thing in start ups and smaller companies. It is not instituted as a perk. Unlimited PTO means you don't owe any money to employees if they leave as no PTO needs to be awarded or earned. So you don't have this giant liability sitting on your balance sheet. Companies that have a PTO policy, every pay period the amount earned has to be put on the balance sheet as a liability as it is something that is earned by the employee that hasn't been paid out yet. And
  • rammer-jammer71 My wife was an executive with a company that had "unlimited PTO." I was a store manager for a big box retailer that had the standard accrued/pto pool. Despite the rigors and demand of the retail management environment, I ended up with more approved time off every year than she did, and it wasn't close. I mean she probably averaged MAYBE two weeks a year. Denied, denied, and denied.
  • SelectLuck6704 I took every Friday off one summer. I discussed this with my manager beforehand and he approved. Into that summer he kept calling important Friday meetings with clients. I had to remind him again & again I could not attend. "Oh yeah.." It felt awful, meetings were missed or Fridays on the phone - not the 3 day break I had hoped for. Every summer since then I arranged to take Mondays off. As a bonus half the office left early Friday, it was quiet, I could get work done.
  • Hour-Cartographer227 I work for myself, run an agency. I don't work Fridays officially. It's how all businesses should run. I call it 'fuck it Friday! Me and every one of my employees only do the important things, no busy work. We answer the phone if it rings (remotely of course), answer the email if it needs asap reply, but otherwise fuck it.
  • Soft-Analyst-9452 Unlimited PTO is a psychological trick. Studies consistently show that employees with unlimited PTO take less time off than those with a fixed allocation because there's no 'use it or lose it' pressure and taking time off feels like a judgment call rather than a benefit. If you're going to use it, set a personal minimum and treat it the same way you would a fixed allowance. I aim for at least 20 days a year and nobody has ever said a word about it.

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