European woman pretends she doesn’t know the United States to get back at a condescending American guest at her Eurovision party: ‘He launched into this rant about how “everyone knows America”’

• Spending an entire evening pretending not to understand clearly spoken English while surrounded by people who learned your language just to include you in the conversation is a bold social strategy, and it deserved a bold response.

• AITA for pretending I had never heard of the USA after an American mocked Europeans during Eurovision?

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• I (F30) am European and honestly Eurovision has always been a pretty big deal for me and my friends. It’s not just a cheesy music contest it feels like this weird, energetic celebration where you get to see countries showing off their music and sometimes their politics in the most over the top way possible.

• You get drama, camp, and chaos and if you grew up here you somehow end up emotionally invested in the whole thing. So, this year was the Eurovision’s 70th final. We decided to get together at a friend’s house to watch the show, drink, play games and chatting before the show kicked off late. One of my friends brought this American guy (M25) which none of us knew him but whatever we are always open to meeting new people.

• For some context: my English is fluent, but I do have an accent, which is normal because it’s not my first language. I’ve been around Americans a lot mostly through media and college. I’ve met plenty who are really chill but honestly there’s always that occasional type who just acts weird or patronizing about non Americans especially when someone has an accent and this fit right into that category.

• Throughout the evening every time someone spoke English with an accent he’d pretend not to understand words that were honestly very clear and it felt like he was deliberately highlighting our accents. It was obvious he understood he just wanted to make a point I guess.

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• When we tried explaining Eurovision and all the participating countries he started making these comments about how certain countries sounded fake because he’d never heard of them and kept saying things like: “Wait, that’s actually a real country?” and “There’s no way that exists.” But what really got under my skin was how dismissive he was about songs in languages other than English.

• As soon as a non English performance started, he would roll his eyes and say stuff like "Nobody can understand this right?" and "Why don’t they just sing in English?". Someone tried to explain to him that hearing songs in different languages is what makes Eurovision unique and he just said “If you want to win internationally, you have to use a language people actually speak”.

• The fact that he said this with a straight face while sitting in a room full of people speaking English as their second language to accommodate him and include him in their conversations was honestly ridiculous. At first we thought he was kidding, but he kept pushing all evening. Then conversation shifted to geography at sme point and someone asked him where he was from. Instead of just saying “the US” or “America” he gave his state name. Maybe it sounds petty, but I always feel it’s a bit arrogant when Americans assume we know every US state.

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• So at this point after hours of him being condescending I figured I’d give him a taste of his own medicine.

• Me: "Where’s that? Asia?"

  He looked genuinely taken aback.

• Him: "No the USA"

• Me: "Oh ok where is that?"

• Him: "The United States of America?"

• Me: "Oh so the Americas. Like Canada and Mexico?”"

  My friends were trying not to laugh at this point

• Him: "No it’s THE United States. You seriously don’t know what the USA is?"

• Me: "I’ve heard of Mexico, is it nearby?"

• Him: "You have to be kidding"

• Me: "No I just don’t know much about smaller countries outside of Europe"

• He actually started getting worked up while I acted totally innocent

• Him: "It’s one of the most powerful countries in the world"

• Me: "Good for you guys. So how many Eurovision wins do you have?"

  That line had my friends crying with laughter.

• He launched into this rant about how "everyone knows America" and how insane it was I’d pretend not to. Eventually I came clean and told him I was just doing what he'd been doing to us all night when we talked about European countries. After that things got a little tense in the room. Some friends thought it was hilarious, but a couple said I went too far and embarrassed him in front of strangers.

• So AITA for doing this? I know I could have just ignored him, but he really was being impolite for hours and it felt good to rage bait an American for once.

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• The Eurovision crowd is a patient bunch by default. You have to be, when you spend hours watching 37 countries compete in a sequined fever dream while explaining the voting system to anyone who will listen. Adding one condescending guest to that mix is manageable. Adding one condescending guest who rolls his eyes at non-English performances and questions whether entire European nations actually exist is a longer evening.

• The geography bit is what really pulls the whole thing together. Introducing yourself by state name in a room full of Europeans and expecting immediate recognition is the kind of move that only makes sense if you genuinely believe the rest of the world organizes its mental map around American regional boundaries. It handed over the perfect setup on a silver platter.

• Pretending not to know what the USA is, in the same tone and with the same innocent energy he had used all night to question whether Moldova was real, is just applying the lesson back to the teacher. The escalation is where it gets genuinely funny. He went from mildly annoyed to fully worked up while she maintained complete composure and expressed polite curiosity about this apparently small and unfamiliar nation somewhere near Mexico.

• The Eurovision wins line is the cleanest possible ending to that exchange. It reframes the entire conversation in terms he had no answer for, which is probably why it landed so hard.

• A couple of friends who thought it went too far are not wrong that it was a deliberate move designed to embarrass someone. They are also watching the same person who spent hours making everyone in the room feel small for having an accent and caring about music in languages other than English. Those two things are connected.

• He got a few minutes of his own evening reflected back at him. Everyone else got hours of it.

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