'You can't fire me; you should fire her instead': Employee gets boss fired during HR disciplinary hearing designated for himself

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    Font - Posted by u/Oncewasaworker 1 day ago 2 Malicious in compliance by the hopeless M OC I was a union delegate at a large firm. The firm had three levels of discipline.
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    Font - 1. Break the law-your got fired 2. Break company policy- first and final warning 3. small events like late for work, rudeness, poor work ethic etc. Had to be dealt with within six weeks(this is important for later on). recorded and a simply verbal meeting with manager. repeat lots of these and you went to stage 2.
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    Font - So i have a union member called Ivan (nicknamed the terrible) who everyday could write on the subreddit Amithea hole and you would all vote him a TA. He was late for work, left early, lazy, rude and generally hopeless. The only person more hopeless than Ivan was his boss Karen. Karen was just so hopeless i could write a book about her and you wouldn't believe the stuff that happened with her.
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    Font - Ivan was in a role where he interacted with most other departments. There wouldn't go a day where Ivan did something wrong. In one year he got 50 formal complaints about him. Karen did nothing about him.
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    Font - Finally, Karen is forced to act by a senior manager and Ivan is called to disciplinary meeting citing the 50 acts. Ivan comes literally crying to me about how unfair this all is and its bullying. I had little sympathy for him. He received a letter outlying the fifty incidents and HR policy on discipline. I attended the meeting with HR, Karen and Ivan. They spend over an hour going through the fifty events. Ivan is stone cold silent throughout it all.
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    Font - Karen starts saying we all have to obey the rules. Cue MC by Ivan. Ivan interrupts her and say something like" i agree with you entirely and since all these 50 events occurred all greater than six weeks ago i can't be in trouble for them as per company policy you gave me" He goes on" in
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    Font - fact i like to lodge fifty complaints about my manager failing to correct my behavior and breaching company rules by taking these issues to task over the six-week timeline that is allowed."
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    Font - There was stunned silence as he dropped formal complaint letters about Karen and HR on the table. He got off and HR and Karen got a warning. This was repeated twice more, and Karen ended getting fired. Ivan sort employment elsewhere after Karen was fired as he told me "He would be sacked under anyone else"
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    Font - SkwrlTail +3 - 1 day ago It's not often you see someone slap down a Reverse card in real life, but it's always impressive when they can. 1.5k Reply Share
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    Font - algy888 +3 - 1 day ago I've seen it at my place of work. We have one completely useless waste of space. He has been there for years. They finally gave him a small area to keep track of so that he wouldn't have to interact with anyone else. It's relatively less important in our maintenance realm but technically needs to be done. So no pressure.
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    Font - Anyways, after years of ignoring the problem, and a manager and foreman playing him off of each other, the new manager wants to do something about this guy but doesn't know how.
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    Font - I just chuckled and said "Good luck. If you go after him now he has a good case for harassment, because if it was okay for 15+ years then how is it not okay now. You've essentially grandfathered his actions." 4 401 Reply Share
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    Font - Nathan-Jacob +1 - 1 day ago How did they let this happen not just once, but twice more???? 177 Reply Share Oncewasaworker OP 1 day ago - You had to meet Karen. She once told me half of 100 was 40 Reply Share 246
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    Font - dertwo +1 - 1 day ago That is amazingly malicious. "Gonna hit me with the bus? Fine. Gonna take everyone else I can, kicking and screaming, down with me.." Reply Share 68 GWJYonder 19 hr. ago Everyone else in the company: see this as an absolute win!" Vote Reply Share
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    Font - Shadow Dragon8685 +3 - 1 day ago Crème de la Kremlin's arrivin'; try to serve Ivan? No survivin'! I've never seen anyone actually practice mutually-assured destruction in an office setting before. 60 Reply Share
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    Font - boodlesgalore +1 1 day ago . I like that "sort" rhymes with "sought" for English (UK) people. Source (sauce): I'm a Brit in the US. 94 Reply Share Oncewasaworker OP 1 day ago - I blame the wine I was drinking while writing and I'm hopeless at grammar etc 54 Reply Share
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    Font - Danternas 1 day ago Seems like you 36 underestimated Ivan Reply Share
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    Font - Bubba-jones · 22 hr. ago This was repeated twice more lol I get the sense that Karen's boss is the true magician here. Vote Reply Share
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    Font - jsting 19 hr. ago Dang, so was Ivan lazy but smart or lazy and just smarter than Karen? Vote Reply Share Shadw21 19 hr. ago The latter, lazy and smarter than Karen, since he proved he could read what the company/union policies were and work around/with them to not get fired immediately. Vote Reply Share

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