'I'd let the repercussions happen': Boss sabotages employees' workflow and demands constant check-ins, employee sends '25 or more emails a day'

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    'Everything is urgent all of the time, you have to prioritise everything'
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    "Everything is urgent all of the time, you have to prioritise everything" LOC I recently left a job where i had a really toxic relationship with my boss. He was old school, and prioritised work over everything else, expecting everyone to do the same. His expectations were so high it disrupted my work life balance significantly, I have two young kids and at this point in my life im not doing late night meetings or weekend reports. The
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    company worked from home 50%, except my boss "didn't believe in WFH" so we were 100% in the office, even when C was at its highest, and the city was flooded and the commute was dangerous. We were the only team of about 50 in the office.
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    I told him I was overwhelmed, that I had too much work to meet all deadlines, and he told me that I have to prioritise everything, because everything is urgent. When I asked what is most urgent, what should I do first, he told me "everything". You get the idea of his approach.
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    The company worked with flexitime, as long as your hours equal 37.5 each week, 7.5 hours per day average. It's all good to work anytime between 7am and 7pm, I could do a 10 hour day, then a 5 hour day, as long as it balanced out. My boss however demanded those hours be worked between 9am and 5pm, and if on any day I was to work 15 minutes over that 7.25 hours then he wanted to be told what i was using that time for
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    and to have his approval first. I used to start work at 7am, hit the gym in the morning around 9:30am for 45 minutes. When I joined his team he didn't like this. He set up a meeting with me every morning at 9:30am, which he mostly didn't show up to, but certainly put an end to my morning sessions. I told him I found it detrimental to my mental health, he told me I needed to find
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    another time (the reason I went in this time is that I have two young kids and my wife works shifts). My boss, meanwhile, has fantastic work life balance, would often start at 9:30- 10:00am, and finish early, or randomly decide to work from home.
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    He then asked that I send him multiple emails, throughout the day, every day, telling him what I'm working on and seeking his approval for stuff, stuff that has never required approval previously. I obliged. I sent him 5 emails a day, every day, waffling on about what I was doing, I'd also ask questions in those emails, forcing him to read and respond to them all, after a while I start to make the
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    questions more subtle, not dot pointing them, but sneaking them into the body of the text. I'd ask the same question multiple times, knowing by this point he's bored of reading my emails, and then when he didn't give me the answer I'd let the repercussions happen, the repercussions that didn't exist until he demanded I seek approval. These repercussions were usually raised by my
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    boss's boss, I knew they were happening, but I let it happen. I'd then respond to the group emails where my boss would blame me, and include the emails I sent him seeking approval as he'd requested. This became a fairly frequent occurrence since I was sending 25 or more emails a day, which seriously
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    was a huge chore on top of my high pressure (about $200m of contracts annually) role. I had a really good reputation in the office for my work, everyone seemed to respect me but him. His manner with people wasn't always appreciated.
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    He would set arbitrary deadlines, and then half them for seemingly no reason, when I refused to enact those (I often had to hand those deadlines on) citing anti-bullying policy, he'd tell me to just get it done. I understand that I wasn't the best most obedient employee, but he made me this way with his micro management.
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    explained Eventually, I found a new role elsewhere. I demanded an exit interview where I how I don't believe he managed his team in accordance with the company's intentions, how I'd expressed a concern for my mental health and he offered no compromise, how he purposely booked meetings to
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    disrupt my day and how he demanded I email him over and over, and asked approval for 15 minutes of flexibility on start and finish times. The lady from HR had revently encountered my boss, and it wasn't pleasant, he was abusive to her and she already had his cross-hairs on him.
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    I recently met up with a colleague from that team, a week after I left my now ex- boss was demoted, no longer manages anybody, and has a much stricter schedule himself, now that he reports to someone. My old team are now much happier, and much more productive. I'm thinking about applying for the now vacant role as his boss.
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    KermitJFrog5916 You should absolutely apply to be his boss
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    ironicmirror. For some people the worst thing that could happen to them is they get promoted to manager. However I also think that to be a good manager you need to experience working for a bad manager. I think the op would make a good manager.
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    Matsuri3-0 OP Thank you friend, I find I do lead from within and soon enough I hope I'll be managing a team of my own. I'm happy to lead with respect, not fear, manipulation or sheer force. It's just not the way these days, and any boss (or colleagues) will get more from me if there's mutual respect.

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