‘He didn't start off well’: New narcissistic manager tries to force man to use accumulated paid leave, gets a taste of his own medicine when it doesn't go as planned

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  • Some workplaces can be super strict regarding paid leave, sick days, and wellness days. To a certain extent, this is understandable because a company needs to ensure that its staff isn't all taking their PTO at the same time. This can prevent the business from running a smooth operation, therefore tanking company goals, any manufacturing required, etc. What happens when employees accrue their PTO instead? If a specific employee doesn't take time off for whatever reason and is producing great work (this does not include employees experiencing burnout), shouldn't the employee be able to accrue?

    A man's friend in this story is facing pushback because he's accrued months of PTO as a result of not taking any time off for the last few years. In this specific company structure, it's assumed that the paid leave rolls over into the years to come. It is unknown if accruing months of paid leave is against company rules, but it seems like this man can accrue all he wants without penalty. That is until a new manager comes to town and tries to get him to take all of his PTO in the coming year or sell it back to the company. This new manager picks on him and intimidates him in company meetings, leading the man to request he take all of his PTO at once or get all of the money from selling his PTO back to the company in one lump sum. The manager complies, but he gets a taste of his own pressure when realizing his suggestions cannot come to fruition. Read ahead to get the full story.

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    Want me to use my vacations?? Fine!
    via christianmoral
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    All these stories about vacations and/or annual leave reminded me of something that happened to one of my workmates a few years ago.
    via christianmoral
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    A new manager was hired for our team and quickly he wanted to impose his way of doing things (daily stand up meetings, people having lunch at different times, etc) so he didnt start off well with
    via christianmoral
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    most people in our team... then he started going after people who had accumulated annual leave (here in Australia you get 20 days annual leave per year), I had none left so no problem with
    via christianmoral
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    me but this friend of mine had been working there for nearly 8y and never took a day off, he had months worth of annual leave!. This manager wanted to make an example of him and ordered him to plan out vacations and/or sell
    via christianmoral
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    back to the company some of that time (perfectly legal but with tons of conditions), my friend didnt want to take any time off but was being pressured
    via christianmoral
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    constantly by our manager, every day at our stand up meetings, the first item would always be pending annual leave and would just fixate on my friend.
    via christianmoral
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    One day my friend just had enough of this guy and gave him 2 options, he told him he wanted to go for extended holidays back to his country and take it all at
    via christianmoral
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    once... or sell the whole thing back to the company, the manager accepted the first option... only to come back next day after checking with his manager to say that wasnt
    via christianmoral
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    possible as he would have to go for nearly 6 months and we had plenty of projects in the pipeline, then he said you'll have to sell the whole thing back to the
    via christianmoral
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    company... only to come back the next day after checking with HR, one of the conditions says that you can only sell a maximum of 20 days.
    via christianmoral
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    Cue MC, from that day onwards, every morning my friend started emailing our manager copying HR and the head of our department, asking him for an update on his annual leave arrangements,
    via christianmoral
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    stating he had given him the options he was looking for and was waiting for his response, he would also bring it up and push for an answer everyday at our
    via christianmoral
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    stand up meetings, he never got a reply from our manager but weeks later got a reply from the head of our department indicating they will review other options and let him know, they never did.
    via christianmoral
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    The following year my friend had his first daughter and ended up taking extended leave then (3 months), the pushy manager had already resigned as he never felt comfortable in the team and found another job somewhere else.
    via christianmoral
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    OnlyInJapan99999 . 13h ago I used to work as a manager at a private school. Whenever I was talking to one of my teachers, I would always ask them, "what can I do to help you with your job?" My role, as I saw it, was to serve them, fight fires for them, so they could perform better. Enrollment grew 500%. After I left, the new manager took a different approach, imposing their way. Teachers left and the school closed down.
    via OnlylnJapan99999
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    christianmoral OP 13h ago I consider myself lucky my current manager takes that approach, everyone respects him and just hope he stays there
    via christianmoral
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    notbedab . 2h ago I worked as a teacher for 9 years and any type of admin who does this is a unicorn in my book. I never had it happen. It was always the admin being on the side of the parents and yelling at us teachers.
    via notbedab
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    tubbytucker 9h ago Why tf did the guy go 8 years without taking a holiday? What's the point?
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    christianmoral OP 8h ago . Its a cultural thing I think, he is asian and his parents sent him to Australia to study a career, I guess his mentality was to work hard for a few years to prove them their efforts paid off, this is just me guessing though, never really asked him
    via christianmoral
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    CutePhysics3214 • 6h ago There were many older men in the companies I've worked for that only took leave on compulsory shut down periods. Typically no family by then (kids grown up, and typically the guys were divorced). So they'd happily accumulate 15 of their 20 allocated days every year (usually around 5 days of Christmas shut down). And then they'd retire a year or two early - last two or three years were just PTO of various types. And in Australia sick leave is separate from annual leave.
    via CutePhysics3214
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    ScubaCC 1h ago • I have to make my husband take vacation. He's not a workaholic, he only works 40 hours a week, but he loves his job and he loves being there. If he won the lottery, he'd keep going.
    via ScubaCC
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