Employees under untracked unlimited PTO policy thrive until HR calls their vacations “excessive” and demands new restrictions their manager has to enforce : ‘Now I have to penalize them for failing to meet expectations that none of us knew existed’

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Etai Eshet • Editor
Oct 18, 2025 7:00 AM EDT

Unlimited PTO always sounds like a dream until someone in HR wakes up and decides to invent limits. For years, the system rolled along just fine: people took time off, work got done, and nobody panicked about "coverage." It felt like the grown-up version of work culture, where trust actually meant something. Then one person logs twenty days of vacation, and suddenly it's treated like a corporate crime scene. HR clutches the policy manual like a holy text and declares it's all gone too far, as if the company will collapse under the weight of one employee catching their breath.

The funny thing about corporate "freedom" is that it comes with invisible strings. HR loves the word unlimited because it looks generous on paper and costs nothing when nobody dares to use it. The moment someone actually enjoys the benefit, it turns into a case study in "excess." Managers who encourage balance are labeled as flexible, and human resources, supposedly for humans, moves to protect the sanctity of schedules.

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  • Our untracked (unlimited) PTO policy was working fine for our team but now HR is losing their minds about it.

    a group of people sitting on chairs next to each other looking exhausted, some are reading from papers implying it's work related
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  • Corporate culture just sort of lingers in the background, whispering that rest is suspicious and exhaustion is loyalty. Teams that function with trust unsettle HR because peace never looks productive in the metrics. Nothing says modern workplace quite like punishing people for not burning out fast enough. The company could’ve kept a great system running, but instead, it’s busy proving that “unlimited” is just another word for “until someone notices”.

  • I'm very disappointed and this is mostly just me shouting into the void about it. If you have any thoughts, you're welcome to share!
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  • This company has always had "unlimited" PTO. I've been here for almost 5 years and have never had any issues.
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  • I usually take \~25 days a year, sometimes more sometimes less. My manager has always been very liberal so, when I became a manager in the same department, I followed suit.
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  • I encourage people to take time off and have never denied a request. We always get our work done and ensure coverage.
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  • The handbook has always said that it's up to manager's discretion. So this is what we've always done with no push back from anyone.
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  • We're fully remote. Today our HR person flipped a shit when they realized that one of my direct reports has taken 20 days of PTO so far this year.
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  • They're saying it's excessive, unprecedented at this company, that it's serious performance issue that I should have been managing, and that I need to write this employee up for abusing the PTO policy.
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  • was absolutely floored. What??? This came completely out of left field. My own manager was just as flabbergasted.
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  • I've actually been encouraging this employee to take more time off this year because they've really stepped up to the plate during a few rough patches and I thought it would be a great way to reward/support them.
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  • Now HR is saying I need to punish them for doing what I literally told them to do?
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  • No. I told my manager that I'm not doing it, they can write me up instead.
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  • Why do some people cling to hustle culture like their lives depend on it? It's like they want to work themselves to death and expect everyone to do the same.
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  • I'm genuinely upset that society is still acting like this. We had a really good thing going, it was hurting no one, it was improving team morale and helping retain this employee (our best performer), and now I have to penalize them for failing to meet expectations that none of us knew existed.
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  • I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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  • Next_Engineer_8230 HR doesn't dictate how you run your department. Tell him/her to go find better Healthcare coverage and stay in their lane.
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  • OP Current Mistake800 I'm struggling with this because | feel like HR has a higher level of authority? But it's definitely strange how she demanded that I issue this write up without talking to my boss, or my boss' boss, about this first. Just blasted me with a nasty email out of left field. This is literally the first time any of us are hearing about this being an issue, it's so bizarre.
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  • AnarkittenSurprise "Do you happen to be working a second job and mixing up emails? Here is the link to our company PTO policy where this employee is well within their entitlements. Feel free to schedule a meeting if I can be of any further help."
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  • OP Current Mistake800 We have a meeting on Tuesday! I don't even know what to expect but at least I have time to gather my thoughts. If we had met today I would have completely gone off!
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  • portmandues If I read correctly, she's new? Probably coming in with habits from the previous job and hasn't understood the actual policy yet.
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  • OP Current Mistake800 No! She's been here a while. Started in another department a few years ago, got her HR certs, and was given free reigns to run HR by herself.
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  • kingNothing42 Think: why do they have to demand that you write the person up. They can't write the person up. They have no power here.
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  • OP Current Mistake800 That's actually a really good point, thank you!
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  • slash_networkboy "oh, so we don't have unlimited PTO? What is the company approved number of days that are accrued per year then?"
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  • DelilahBT This is the insidious problem with "unlimited" PTO. As senior manager at a tech company, we had this benefit and yet the VP ran reports and shared the staff ranked by the amount of PTO they'd taken in our management meetings. He arbitrarily decided that "about 21 days per year" was acceptable. WTF
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  • empreur "Unlimited" PTO is really just to ensure the company doesn't have to pay you anything when you leave. See, unlimited also = "0 PTO in the bank".
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  • managetosoar As someone in HR myself, I have to say that the HR person should find another job. They are simply not suited for their current role. And I want to also congratulate you on the great job you are doing, taking care of your team and supporting them.
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  • Live_Cell_7223 HR is not above all other departments. If this is against company policy, they need to specify what specifically is in violation. If your team is getting their job done, they deserve the unlimited PTO. It shouldn't be about the hard numbers anyways, but about actual performance.
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  • jimmyjackearl Your manager should take this up with the complainants manager for resolution. It should be made clear here that the employee is well managed, going above and beyond. This is not an issue about the employee (the fact that the complainant is making it so says a lot) but about clarification of company PTO policy as well as management discretion. My guess is that if escalated to the point that legal gets involved HR will stand down. Don't waste your time arguing with police, argue wit
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