Veteran employee gets written up by new boss for clocking in 5 minutes later than his usual early time, even though he was early: ‘I told him my shift doesn’t start until 5:00, he said it doesn’t matter when my actual shift starts’

Fifteen years of showing up early just gets you a starring role in the new manager's drama club. The weekly schedule hero clocks in at 4:50 instead of the sacred 4:45, and suddenly the crime of the century takes place. Forget the job actually starts at 5:00. Around here, the only thing that matters is living up to the legend of showing up before your coffee even kicks in.

The new boss is hellbent on enforcing imaginary rules nobody remembers signing up for. Missing the "bonus round" of unpaid early minutes means trading in your gold star for a write-up and a lecture in management creativity. Turns out the only metric for success is making up routines and grading employees like it's a reality show about patterns.

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  • My new boss wrote me up for being late but I wasn’t late?

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  • I work in GA, but what I do isn't really relevant in this post. I've been working here for nearly 15 years and I have never been late.
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  • My shift starts at 5:00pm, but I always come in at 4:45. If you clock in 15 minutes early or less, it's not considered an early clock in.
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  • I always get here early just to make sure I'm never late. If I ever run late, it's for the 4:45pm time and never for the 5:00 time.
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  • The extra 15 minutes is just there for a cushion in case traffic is bad or what-not.
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  • About a month ago, my department got a new supervisor. He works day shift only, while I work the second shift so up until about 3 hours ago I hadn't actually met him yet.
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  • One slip into normal human behavior earns the kind of punishment usually reserved for breaking into the company safe. Workplace culture doubles down on nonsense, where policies mean less than personal rituals and everyone’s memory is short when it comes to actual job descriptions.

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  • Why did I finally meet him? He wrote me up for being late. One day last week, I was running slightly late so I ended up clocking in at 4:50 instead of my usual 4:45.
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  • He said he was reviewing my clock in times for payroll and saw that I was 5 minutes late for my shift and that since my shift starts at 4:45 he needs to write me up for being late.
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  • I told him my shift doesn't start until 5:00, but he said that since I always clock in at 4:45, it doesn't matter when my actual shift starts.
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  • I was still on the premises 5 minutes late so he has to write me up.
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  • My trends show that I'm always here at 4:45 and clocking in at 4:50 is going against my usual routine so it's considered late.
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  • HR won’t lift a finger. This brand of leadership is too busy collecting fake trophies for catching people being less perfect than usual. Here, the path to employee of the month is paved with caution, sarcasm, and a running bet on how many more years it takes for the next write-up to happen because someone wore mismatched socks. It’s all padding, no substance, and being a model worker just gets you a front row seat to managerial improv.

  • Can someone tell me how this makes any sense at all? I plan on refusing to sign the write up and going to HR about it.
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  • But they are notoriously incompetent here and they'll most likely side with my supervisor.
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  • Blue_Etalon So your shift is from 5 pm till when? Midnight? Is written down somewhere? Is he saying that you've been working an extra 15 minutes per day with no additional compensation? Who can you go to to challenge this? I'm assuming you're not a represented employee. Is there some number of "lates" that can get you suspended or terminated? Possibly that's what they're going for?
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  • OP sethborf No if we don't clock in more than 15 minutes early it's not considered an early clock-in and doesn't count towards overtime
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  • shmimey Can you screenshot or photograph your start time is 5:00? Showing up 15 min early does not change your start time. They can't just change your start time from 5:00 to 4:45 without telling you. You were 10 min early. Ask them to explain when your time was changed and why you were not told. His explanation does not make sense. How can it not matter when your shift starts? If it does not matter, then how can you be considered late?
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  • OP sethborf Honestly I think it's because he's still new to this role he's in his 20s and looks like he just got pulled out of college for this
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  • OldLadyKickButt If your technical shift begins at 5:00 and you regularly clock in 15 minutes early he is nuts. If, by chance you have been paid for the extra time then he might have grounds. Regardless, I would write a rebuttal- Dear HR: re my writeup incident report for being 5 minutes late because although my shift begins at 5:00 and my habit is to clock in at 4:45 I do not believe I was tardy to work. I was 5 minutes later clocking in than my usual but I was on site, clocking in 10 minutes be
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  • OP sethborf No it only counts towards overtime if we clock in more than 15 minutes early
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  • Ryzel0000 If you have a timesheet system they can access with shift start/end times..or have your own app or website you log into that shows assigned shift start times. Surprised if you don't, but if so, then it's he says she says and they'll side with your boss.
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  • OP sethborf We have both an automated system and we also send our own timesheets for redundancy.
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  • lartinos What does it say on your actual schedule?
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  • OP sethborf My shift starts at 5:00
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  • MelancholicEmbrace_x Go to HR and appeal the write up. It does matter. It sounds like he didn't like being corrected and isn't aware of the company policies and scheduling. Instead of apologizing he's has to "prove" himself by writing you up and making his word finally despite being in the wrong. Also, ask HR to clarify the clocking in early policy. You mention that it's not considered overtime if it's 15 mins early or less, but some companies consider it time theft to clock in early and get pai
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  • OP sethborf I don't get paid for the 15 minutes if that's what you're asking
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  • JosKarith My shift starts at 4:45 does it? Well I guess that's 1 hr 15 min extra pay every week then. How far are we backdating this...?
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  • rich90715 Reach out to HR and if they say the write up is valid, ask them for back pay for as long as they have records of you clocking in 15 mins early without pay.
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  • Some_Caregiver3429 Yeah that's BS, you need to fight this.
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  • Pleasant Lead5693 You're not being paid until 5:00. If your manager is suggesting that you should be there at 4:45, you should be paid to work from 4:45 to 5:00. Tell HR / your manager that there are only two possibilities: either you get paid for the extra 15 minutes, and have your new start time officially baked into your contract, or your manager kinds his own business until 5:00 on the dot.
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