Employee refuses to attend a mandatory, unpaid Saturday team-building event so he can spend quality time with his child, sparking workplace conflict as his boss questions his commitment to “company culture”: ‘Saturday is my one full day with my kid’

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    Team bonding activity.
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    Unpaid “mandatory fun” on my only family day and apparently I’m not “committed to company culture”

    My boss scheduled a "mandatory fun" team building event this saturday. It's unpaid. It's on the
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    And it's explicitly not optional even though it's obviously outside our normal work hours. Saturday is my one full day with my kid.
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    We don't get a lot of time together during the week and we always make that day special like breakfast, the park whatever little adventures we can do.
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    So I told my boss I couldn't make it. His response was "that shows you aren't committed to company culture" Company culture shouldn't mean sacrificing parenting time so we can go bowling together and pretend we're all best friends.
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    I work hard. I show up. I do everything that's actually required of me. But the expectation that employees should gladly give up their personal lives for "fun" they didn't even sign up for?
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    Father playing with his child outdoors.
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    That's not culture. That's control. I was literally trying to relax later and play a quick game of stardew valley just watering my crops and minding my business and my brain kept looping back to that comment.
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    Like I'm a bad employee or a bad teammate for choosing my kid over a forced office hangout?
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    I'm committed to my family. That should count for more than forced "morale building"
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    arochains 1231 If it's "mandatory" then you are legally required to be paid for it. Any work situation where your attendance is mandatory is considered payable work.
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    olemazeyleg Unpaid means it's not obligatory. You aren't required to be clocked in for any reason without pay.
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    bgzlvsdmb "You aren't committed to the company culture." You're right, I'm not. Especially if you're requiring me to commit to work obligations outside of working hours. My commitment to company culture ends when my wages stop.
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    ricksebak The boss is apparently so committed to the company culture that he's apparently willing to pay $0 for it. And that's the angle to use if you want to fight your boss on this. If it's mandatory, it needs to be paid. And if it's unpaid, it needs to be optional. If you have anything in writing which says it's mandatory, you could even file a complaint with the DOL for wage theft, and use whatever you have in writing as your proof. It won't be a fast or easy process but it'll teach the boss
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    Boss yelling at his employee.
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    FakeDoctorMeatCoat Tell your manager, in 20 years, they won't remember your commitment to company culture. But your kids will remember eating dinner alone. School performances/games you missed. Vacations glued to your laptop. And the company's commitment to your employment can disappear without notice.
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    Survive 1014 "Sorry, my custody agreement doesnt allow me to reschedule this." and leave it at that.
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    Complex-Compote-9214 Got forced to participate in an unpaid 4th of July parade on my DAY OFF, where I was berated for not passing out candy with a huge smile on my face. Long story short, I'm not there anymore lol.
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    jaimeleschatstrois Mandatory team events should be held on a regular workday.
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    M1K3yWA15H Always, always, always value your own family above your work. They would replace you but to your child you are irreplaceable. \-Sincerely a boy who wished his dad stayed home from work more.
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    BouncingSphinx "Am I being paid to be there? No? Then it's not mandatory. I'll be committed to company culture when company culture is committed to me."
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    autoredial My old company had one of these. Coworker told them they're bringing the kids. They said that's not allowed. Coworker said they can't leave kids on side of road for their last minute mandatory meeting. Company relented.
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    velolove42 I'd contact an employment lawyer and have them contact HR on your behalf. All sorts of bad implications here, if you go they aren't paying you which is illegal, and if you dont know your boss has already shown their cards for future bad performance reviews, leading to possibly losing your job.
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    lizzyote I always wonder how a boss would respond if you immediately dropped a "well, that sounds manipulative.." comment.
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