Landlord gives tenant a warning for vacuuming after 8:00 pm on a Saturday, tenant fires back with a long document of noise complaints: 'This is excessive!'

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    A landlord gives a set of keys to a new tenant.
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    "Document every noise complaint, so I did"

    I live in student housing in Uppsala. Old building, thin walls, you know how it is. My upstairs neighbor complained about me twice last month. Once
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    because I was "vacuuming too late" at 8pm on a Saturday. Once because my friend and I were talking in the kitchen at like 10:30pm on a weeknight.
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    Both times the building manager knocked on my door the next day. Very serious about it. Told me the quiet hours are 10pm-7am and I need to be more considerate even outside those hours.
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    I tried to explain that 8pm on a weekend seems reasonable for vacuuming and that we were literally just having a conversation at normal volume. He said it
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    doesn't matter, if someone complains he has to follow up, and maybe I should "examine my lifestyle choices."
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    Okay so like. This annoyed me. because my upstairs neighbor is not quiet. At all. I hear furniture dragging at midnight, loud TV,
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    footsteps constantly, bass from music. But I figured that's just apartment living and never said anything.
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    Building manager said if I have concerns I should document them. Every incident, date and time, description of noise. Then he can "address the pattern."
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    So I did. For three weeks I wrote down every single noise I heard from upstairs. Footsteps at 6:45am. TV volume at 11:15pm.
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    Chair scraping at 1:30am. Shower running at 6:20am. Footsteps at 7:10am. Footsteps at 9:40pm. Footsteps at 11:55pm.
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    I had four pages of documentation. Times, dates, type of noise, duration when I could estimate it.
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    Gave it to the building manager last week. He looked at it for a while and then said something like "this is excessive" and "normal living noises aren't violations."
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    I said sure but you told me to document concerns so I did. He said he meant legitimate disturbances not someone walking in their own apartment.
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    But here's the thing. He still had to give the list to my upstairs neighbor per building policy once a formal complaint is filed. Which apparently my four-page document counted as.
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    My upstairs neighbor left a note under my door yesterday. She's a PhD student, works weird hours because of lab access times. She said the list made her cry because she's "trying her best"
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    and didn't realize I could hear normal footsteps. Now she's apparently walking around in socks only and feeling anxious in her own apartment.
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    I feel like absolute shit about this. I wasn't trying to make someone anxious I was trying to show the building manager that his standards were ridiculous.
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    He sent an email to both of us about "community living expectations" and "mutual respect" which solved nothing.
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    A woman vacuuming flor while listening to music.
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    ActionThaxton • 2h ago your building manager is as much at fault here as anyone. your noise complaints are just as vaild as hers.
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    send her a note, explaining that the building manager made it clear that your daily noises mattered because she complained, and that this was how you were told to deal with it.
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    _delicja_ 2h ago Her note is vile and manipulative, aimed to make you feel bad. Somehow she wasn't anxious about the situation when she was complaining about you HAVING A CONVERSATION?
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    I'd be polite but distant with my reply, so that she can see she can't manipulate you into worrying about her 'anxiety', which she had brought on herself. Building
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    isn't well sound isolated, we all can hear each other's daily lives and we need to learn to live with it, end of message. Don't coddle her and don't let her make you feel guilty for what is her doing.

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