Boss asks employee to spend $2.5k on work trip to be reimbursed later, employee resent the upfront cost and doesn't trust they'll get the money back: 'The business is hugely struggling'

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  • A woman looks stressed writing on paper at a table, money stacked next to her.
  • Employer asking me to pay thousands and reclaim for business trip.

    Urgh just ranting really and looking for advice. I have worked for this business for 8 years now- the business is hugely struggling but I won't jump ship yet as I have 3 month notice period, and would get a hefty redundancy pay. I'm a working mum and this job is super flexible and so I will be here until the bitter end!!
  • Anyway- we have a business trip to the states in 6 weeks. For the last 2 months I have been telling my boss- here are the flights, shall we book? He is useless and refuses to commit. Anyway, at the end of last week he said oh just book and reclaim.
  • I just went onto book and they are 2.5k because it is so last minute. I literally do not have that money. I feel annoyed that now they have doubled in price, and I've got to pull thousands of pounds out my ass, in JANUARY of all months. I've had to say I can't afford that and it makes me feel so uncomfortable.
  • Commenters gave their take on the situation.

    Fantastic_Inside4361 No. Never. Not even for a company I trust. Not even if I'm the accountant and authorised and able to pay.
  • OP missmacleod2 Okay- I don't mind small expenses like trains and food. But to expect me to pay thousands really doesn't sit right with me, and I'm quite cross he has even put I'm me in this position.
  • LauraBaura That's fair. Just say "I can't afford to do that, I need the company to pay up front". He should not have put you in that position to have to explain your finances. He's an AH. But it's your really only way through this situation.
  • A female employee is stressed at her desk, looking at a laptop
  • OP missmacleod2 Yes that's what I've done- I said I'm sorry I can't afford it. X
  • haphazard72 Don't ever do that! Especially if they're struggling. And redundancy? Ain't no redundancy if they're struggling!
  • OP missmacleod2 In the UK you get statutory from the government even if the business can't pay
  • fingersarnie If the company is struggling, do not do this. You will not get it back. If the company goes under, will you even get redundancy.
  • OP missmacleod2 Yes I am in the UK and even if the company don't pay it, the government does
  • haphazard72 Ah ok. Lucky!
  • OP missmacleod2 Definitely. So If tomorrow they went under and it all ended I'd have redundancy pay and 3 month of pay- if that was the case it would be like £13,000! I'd envision that I would have to work my 3 month notice period tho- but I'd use that time to get a new job! So I'd still get absolute minimum of over £5k tax free- I'd never let that be!
  • fingersarnie Wouldn't that be statutory though? Admittedly I have no idea how much that would be though and just as a point of note, it's a lot easier finding a job when you're already in one.
  • OP missmacleod2 Yeah but would still be over £5,000 (as the statutory minimum)
  • haphazard72 That's great!
  • OP missmacleod2 Indeed- I actually worked for my boss years ago in another one of his business that also went bust (lol) and he was very generous with redundancy pay then, even tho I hadn't worked there long and wasn't actually entitled to anything. So this is truly worst case scenario- he loves me and we have worked together for years now so I know he will be as generous as the finances would allow x
  • Wh01sthebear Unless you work for a subsidiary or contractor to the UK government they don't pay statutory redundancy pay, the employer does. And if a company goes bust, whilst you will be paid for outstanding work done, any further redundancy will be paid along with any other staff usually before creditors who are also owed money by the business. Usually business' are folding cause there's no cash or cash flow left so apart from going to court and trying to claim from outstanding assets or direc
  • OP missmacleod2 Yes, the government pays redundancy if your employer is insolvent (can't pay), through the Redundancy Payments Service (RPS) on GOV.UK. You can claim statutory redundancy, holiday pay, and notice pay from the RPS, but you generally need to go to an employment tribunal first if your employer isn't officially insolvent, to get a ruling before the government steps in
  • MrsBSK What exactly does this mean? To book and reclaim? I've never heard of it and want to understand why everyone is saying not to do it.
  • OP missmacleod2 Basically often with large expenses the business pay for it. He is asking me to pay out of my own pocket, submit the receipt and they will pay me back.
  • Future_Direction5174 If they can't pay for your ticket, then how can they reimburse you if you buy them and then try to claim the money back? It's not even a case of "I can't afford it" at the end of the day. It's the fact that THEY are asking you to buy your own ticket because THEY obviously don't have the money to buy it for you.
  • OP missmacleod2 No, they do have the money. It's a complex situation, and essentially we are without a card- my boss can transfer money tho

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