Hotel guest cancels card to avoid paying cancellation fee after not showing up for reservation, clerk charges card every day until it goes through: ‘I can play the long-game’

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  • Turn off your card so you can avoid a cancellation fee? I can play the long-game

    If there is one thing that I hate (and is sadly becoming a pretty big issue), it's people who decide they rather turn off or pull all their funds from their card to avoid a cancellation fee (which is usually the first night if a no-show).
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  • Now, while this is usually a "whatever" situation, it's a huge problem for third- party bookings, especially from a certain third-party conglomerate.
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  • This one certain third- party site changes their business date over super early compared to where my hotel is located, AND they have a policy that the hotel can only cancel a booking on their portal the day of or earlier.
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  • The issue with this is when we check-in the no-shows at \~3am when we change our system's business date over, it's already been many hours past that third-party's business date, so it flags the reservation as "checked in" on their portal.
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  • This wouldn't be too much of an issue if there wasn't a commission fee that we need to pay per
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  • And to make things worse, the few times I tried to call their customer service to get it cancelled/waved, they rejected it & essentially blamed us for not taking care of it earlier.
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  • I got sick of it, especially when we got to the point it was happening at least once every 1-2 weeks.
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  • So I (being a manager) put a rule in place that any reservations that come from that third- party conglomerate will need to have at least authorization taken right away, no matter if it is a PrePay Virtual Card or just a standard hold.
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  • The logic: by doing so, we can do one of the following 1.) We ensure we have some payment before the person even gets the chance to try to pull a fast-one 2.) If it declines, we have ample time to take care of it.
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  • Obviously, if the guest decided they would want to change their card, we would de-authorize the hold & put a new hold on the new card (and the funds get put back no later than 24hrs later, even with debit cards) Some guests naturally didn't like that, but most understood after we explained it after they said something.
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  • Now for the actual story. This particular day, I was doing a half- overnight (11pm- 3am) on a slow weekday so I can take care of accounting stuff.
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  • When I came in, we had one more person checking in. No big deal. Midnight comes around and I went to go authorize the reservation (it's my personal policy to authorize all cards at midnight for anyone who has yet to show up).
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  • I look at the reservation and didn't realize it was from that 3rd Party. The policy | created must've slipped my mind at the time.
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  • Of course, the card declined & I couldn't cancel on the portal, so we were losing well over $30 because of the stupid commission.
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  • Since I didn't want to deal with the third-party & knew they would reject it, I noticed that the card declined for "insufficient funds." That was actually the best case as that meant that the card was not terminated & there was a higher chance that was a debit card (and one thing I learned is if people rely on a debit card, they won't get a new card if there is no reason to).
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  • So for a week straight, I kept trying to authorize the card. Tried lower amounts of payment to at least get something (like 1/4 the total), kept declining, kept saying insufficient funds.
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  • I kept doing this for a month, once a week trying for some sort of amount I then went on vacation for two and a half weeks.
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  • The day I got back, I tried the card again for just the commission amount, and to my surprise, it went through.
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  • Feeling excited, I tried the remaining amount, AND IT ALL WENT THROUGH!! This guy thought we gave up and started to put money back on their card.
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  • But of course, that was their demise. About a week later, I get a call from someone asking if we did a charge.
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  • I asked their name and it was the person. I wanted to gloat so badly, but I kept my cool.
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  • He was not mad, he just asked if we were the hotel that did this charge.
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  • I said yes & explained that it was a no-show charge for his reservation almost two months prior.
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  • He said "oh, okay" in an almost disappointed tone and hung up. From his tone, I could tell he tried to cheat the system and lost.
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  • Inquisitive-Carrot "Hotels hate this one trick!"
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  • Jdawger_ Original Poster's Reply HAHA. This half-reminded me of another story I told before (I think). Our policy is if you "no-show & CC declines," it's an automatic "Do Not Rent" (with a relatively easy way to get off it). That happened with someone, and then they decided to come a month later. When I said they were on the DNR list because of our policy, they flat out said "everyone turns off their card to avoid a cancellation fee" like it was no big deal. They didn't expect a hotel to ban the
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  • pakrat1967 I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and say that maybe his card was compromised and someone else booked the room just to see if the card worked. Sometimes banks will "transfer" a charge from the old card to the new card. Normally only if it's like a monthly auto payment, but since you attempted to charge the card so many times. The bank may have decided to charge the new card.
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  • Jdawger_ Original Poster's Reply While I see what you mean, you do know how rare that is, right? People don't just make random reservations with someone else's card and not show up. People who steal other's cards would want to gain something out of it, especially if it's something they can get quickly. In terms of hotels, they either try to use the card and say someone else will check in, or just hope that the FDA doesn't see the name on the card when they show up. None of this drain money for t
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  • RoyallyOakie "Hi customer. I want to play game." In your very best Jigsaw voice.
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  • KrazyKatz42 Unfortunately there's so many more hotels out there who pretty much only try the card a couple of times (if that) and just write it off. That's why so many try it on. My old place I would do what you did. Keep trying it at random, and did get quite a few to go through eventually.
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