Manager accuses employee of skipping a meeting because she didn't remember that he was there: 'Apparently not contributing made me invisible in that meeting.'

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  • Manager thinks I’m lying because someone doesn’t remember me being in a meeting. FML.

    I was in a long online meeting earlier this week - group discussions, break-out rooms, the works.
  • For some reason, the break-out function was having issues and kept booting me out, so I only caught snippets of the conversations going on in my group.
  • I was working through a migraine that day, as well, and I did not want to be the weirdo with sunglasses on inside, so I kept my camera off.
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  • My manager and I spoke after the meeting, and I did mention some of the points of the discussion that I caught and the fact that I had technical issues, so I thought that was that.
  • I listened to the conversation, but did not contribute since the people dominating the conversation has far more experience on the topic than I do, and it was hard to participate anyway when I kept being kicked out and then pulled back in several minutes later each time.
  • But nope! Apparently not contributing made me invisible in that meeting, because someone who was in the same breakout room told my manager that I was not there, and my manager then told me and proceeded to give me the third degree to verify that I was, indeed, there.
  • I ended up saying that, while I cannot prove that I was there since there are no meeting records, I did learn a lot from the conversation that I witnessed and will make sure to loop her in if I have technical issues during a meeting again to avoid confusion.
  • Pretty sure my manager, who is usually lovely, thinks I'm a liar now anyway, and my anxiety is shooting through the roof!
  • I guess from now on I'll have to say random stuff that doesn't add to the conversation even when I have nothing significant to share, just so I get noticed by other people.
  • Mind you, I have been with the company for 10 years and with this team for seven; my performance has been nothing but stellar and I never miss a deadline, and though I am the only remote. employee in the team due to a dis lity that requires WFH as an accommodation, they have never had any issues with me.
  • Great! Anyone out there with advice on how to handle this? Or should I just never mention it again and hope nothing comes of it?
  • Old_Still3321 You were there, and there's a digital footprint. They need to get over it.
  • mumwifealcoholic I'd never mention it again. But I'd also make sure to pipe up at least once every meeting. But that's me. I got a mortgage.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply Yeah, I definitely am going to start rising that annoying little Teams hand every once in a while just for the sake of it. Still, after being a good employee for a decade, being grilled like that felt a little icky, I'm not going to lie.
  • cardlackey You can prove it. Whoever made the zoom can go into the zoom web portal Reports > Usage Reports > Usage and download the one for that meeting. Good luck.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply This company uses Teams rather than Zoom, so I believe all they can see is that I accepted and was in the meeting at some point. But thanks for the tip!
  • taitabo Teams can do that too. You can see when you arrived and when you left, and even when you "participated" with emojis and hand raising.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply I'll try to request it! There were no emojis or raised hands on my part that day, but since I got kicked out and pulled back into the breakout room multiple times, there will hopefully be a record.
  • Liamlou18 There's a time stamped attendance report to the main call. Not sure about the breakouts or if it will show you departing early but you can get your hands on the report - ask for a screenshot of it though otherwise it's an exported excel spreadsheet and anyone could modify that.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply Even just an attendance report will show that I was there start to finish, so should it come to that I'm sure that would be enough!
  • Lynx3145 request the digital attendance log. it might show multiple connections on your end from the tech issues. the creator of the event would have access to download that file.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply Thank you! If it gets brought up again, I'll request it - although the person who created the meeting is in their 70s and has the IT skills of a squirrel!
  • SatinFlowers That's such a dumb situation to be put in after ten solid years. I've had breakout rooms glitch on me too and it already feels chaotic without having to defend your existence afterward. If it were me, I'd just send a quick follow-up summary next time so there's a paper trail and then move on like it's no big deal.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply Yeah, at this point I'll make aure to jot down some notes every time just so I can use them to prove I was there.
  • Jaydamic >make sure to pipe up at least once every meeting. And do it in the most annoying and embarrassing way possible. "I just want to let you know that I'm here because after a decade of impeccable service, someone lied about me not attending a meeting that I definitely was at and my manager didn't believe me. This way, there can be no doubt." Edit: obnoxious, that was the word I was thinking of! Edit 2: replaced a period with a comma
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply Malicious compliance, here I come!
  • nickooze Zoom tracks attendance by the minute, not sure how it works in break out rooms though.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply We use Teams, not Zoom, so I think the best I can get would be the attendance time-stamp for when I joined and left the main meeting that day. It still would not prove that I was in that break-out room, though. Hopefully this will never get mentioned again by my manager, but I'm still stressing about it to an inordinate degree.
  • Impossible_Can1964 Very sad. U deserve better since u been so long with that company.
  • Jooles95 Original Poster's Reply Yeah, it made me feel like a kid being caught out in a fib by a teacher - at 30! I honestly hated it. Sadly, I really like my job, and it's a bit of a unicorn - 99% remote, flexi- time, 30 paid days off a year plus bank holidays, free private health insurance and basically unlimited sick days. For someone like me, who would be unable to hold down an in-person job due to my health issues, it is the holy grail! Hopefully, considering my track record and the fact th
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