'There's an entire ecosystem there that is being destroyed because of your neighbor's ridiculous "aesthetic"': Man forces neighbor to clear leaves and trees that pose no danger to his property

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  • A row of mailboxes in a wooded area in a neighborhood
  • Am I in the wrong for refusing to accommodate my neighbor's aesthetic preferences?

    A few years ago, in November, several months after I'd moved into my home in a woodsy suburban area, my neighbor (call him Joe) asked me to remove the leaves in an area bordering his property. I'd cleared leaves from elsewhere on my property but this area, about twenty-five feet wide by eighty feet long, has many trees and I don't use it at all, so I intended to let the leaves
  • accumulate. Joe said his landscaper (I don't use one) would be coming by in a few days to clear his leaves and he didn't want to have to deal with leaves blowing from my property to his after that. I immediately agreed, and spent the next several days working non-stop to clear all the leaves.
  • Joe then asked if I'd replace a blue tarp covering my compost bin with a green or brown one, because he could see if from his house and found it unsightly. I did so; although he didn't offer to buy the new tarp, it was a small expense I viewed as a neighborly accommodation. He didn't thank me.
  • For the next two seasons I made sure to clear all leaves from the area bordering Joe's property, which required going out several times every week for two months to avoid having the leaves accumulate to the point that they'd again become a huge task by the end of November. I began to dread autumn.
  • Then Joe began mentioning he considered "de d" trees an eyesore, and that I had three in this same area. My view of trees is based entirely on any threat they may pose to property. These trees aren't actually de d, but might possibly be on their way out, and aren't tall enough to endanger Joe's property should they happen to fall some day.
  • I decided to build a fence to prevent leaves from blowing on to Joe's property (although leaves blow in both directions), and told Joe my intention and the design I had in mind, which I felt was consistent with the local landscape. Joe complained about the design's effectiveness and about having any fence at all. (Before I'd purchased the
  • property, Joe had built a stacked- rock wall between the properties, but it's too low to prevent leaves from crossing.) He also asked if I'd cut the weeds that grow in that area during the summer. In our neighborhood, there are a number of similar wooded areas between properties that are allowed to accumulate leaves, so I wouldn't be an outlier if I did
  • nothing with that area. Some of my neighbors, like Joe, keep their properties manicured and chemically free of all weeds and insects. Others, like me, mow their lawns and keep things presentable but are more relaxed about it. There's no homeowners association, which was important to me when I bought the property. I'm confident I have no legal obligation to do any of the things Joe's requested. I'm
  • considering telling Joe I've decided not to do anything at all with that area, and if he's concerned about the leaves or the view, he might consider planting a hedge on his property. AITA?
  • A few houses sit next to each other in a green, foresty area
  • Commenters gave their support to this neighbor.

    small-black-cat-2... NTA. And by the way, leaf cover is really important to beneficial insects and microbes. There's an entire ecosystem there that is being destroyed because of your neighbor's ridiculous "asthetic". Do what you want on your own property.
  • Equivalent_Secre... Stop letting Joe tell you what to do with your property. Build the fence you want, keep the trees you want, stop buying things. because Joe doesn't like the color etc. Joe needs to worry about himself.
  • Caspian4136 NTA Stop catering to his every demand. He's not the one in charge of what you do on your property. As I get changing tarps, because the blue ones are ugly to look at, all the rest? He needs to get over himself.
  • Also, the leaves in the wooded area are full of a whole ecosystem that is good for the environment.
  • Gigafive Your forested area would probably be healthier if you left the leaves or mowed them into mulch. Stop letting him dictate what you do on your property.
  • Altruistic_Ad_9821 Leaves are an important part of the ecosystem and provide places for bugs to hibernate, nourishment for the ground, and so on. You are well within your right to leave the leaves where they are AND you can tell your neighbour that you care about the planet and biodiversity more than yard aesthetics.
  • If someone laments they never see fireflies in the summer anymore, and then they pay someone to chemically treat their lawn and remove every leaf from the ground, I'm like:
  • Stephinator917 Absolutely stop catering to him. He will adjust. His gardener can pick up leaves that blow over, thats literally their job. If he doesnt want to pay for it, he can do it himself. And do not cut down your trees to please him.
  • Paisley Viking Leaves are important for the good critters to survive winter. Don't bother with Joe anymore.
  • Catbutt247365 Keep that wooded area natural. So many creatures depend on undisturbed leaves to keep the area healthy.
  • KarmicBurn "The leaves on the ground look natural. If it bothers you I would allow your landscaper to clear the border area of my property. I will not be reimbursing if there is a cost."
  • You OWN your property. Anything he wants different is a request that he can pay for. This situation doesnt make you a bad neighbor, it makes him one. I'm a little more brash than you, so I would have had a quite negative response of "F off, Joe. Those 'weeds' are natural groundcover."
  • Epiphone56 I used to live next to someone like this, it was a nightmare, they thought they had the right to tell me how often I maintained my garden on my own land. After several requests I
  • ignored them completely, let my garden become overgrown and unsightly when they were looking over the fence or from their bedroom window, and they sold up and moved. Problem solved. Your neighbour is the ah le here, are they by any chance retired with nothing better to do with their days as well?
  • 1Rainbow Unicorn NTA. No way in h II would have agreed to clear those leaves! You are also very generous in building a fence... I would have told him if it bothers him, he should build a fence! Wooded areas are healthy for the environment.
  • Maker_of_woods Nta. natural areas are just as beautiful as manicured. i would tend to just ignore him or say simple things like. I will keep that in mind. he wants to control things he doesn't own.
  • GnomieOk4136 NTA. Joe needs a bigger property if he wants everything he sees to be the way he liked it. Sadly, he probably can't afford to buy 20+ acres of land. Too sad for him.

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