‘I’m not proving my value, bye': Tenured team member told by boss he needs to become a manager to get a raise, despite being paid $40,000 under market value

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    "You need to become a manager to prove your value."
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    Don't tell your job you want to quit/get a raise
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    29M, 7 years procurement experience, 4 years post BA. Working for a major MFG company and generally enjoy the job and coworkers. Finally decided to tell my boss I was seriously considering leaving the company because I'm being paid $40,000 under market value. The new girl who started 2 months ago I trained is making at least 20k over me, and a coworker who got hired 2 years ago was making 30k more, with less experience and no BA. I've never told my employer I was considering leaving, nor asked f
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    or promotion. Edit: this year was my first time asking for a better raise to market value. I asked for a 30% raise, on the grounds that I received no raise the prior year, I'm the top team member, and cost of living in my state is top 5 most expensive. I'm 4 years into trying to buy property and cannot afford our inflated home prices on my salary.
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    A month goes by, and boss calls me to say "I passed the info along to the big boss, they may be able to get you into a manager pay grade in your range, but you need to take on extra projects and prove the value to the company over time." so I, the most tenured and experienced team member, need to become a manager and prove my value. Yet the dude who quit after 9 months was worth over market value at the time?
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    In 5 years I job hopped every 6-36 months, and tripled my salary. Don't stay, just get your bag elsewhere. I'll be waiting till next year to potentially see that money, and by then I'll be even further under market value.
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    PandaGengar 21 hr. ago There's no loyalty staying with the same company. You often get better pay going else where 1.3k Reply Share Personal-Window-4938 19 hr. ago I will throw one caveat. Alot of big companies especially today are geniunley struggling with losses from high turn over, and are pushing efforts into employee retention. Bring this up in these conversations. 318 Reply Share
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    Afraid-Ad-6657 - 20 hr. ago absolutely. you never ever tell your job you wanna leave. or else they will make plans to get rid of you. 283 Reply Share ProMikeZagurski · 20 hr. ago Too late. 45 Reply Share
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    BrainWaveCC . 21 hr. ago Don't tell your job you want to quit/get a raise Either show up with an offer, or use that offer to actually change jobs. Those are the only viable options. I hope you're able to find something soon. 254 Reply Share Rawniew54 20 hr. ago I would never take a counter offer. Your best off leaving on good terms. Counter offer just puts a target on your back. 109 Reply Share
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    TheNewATeam - 20 hr. ago My former employer didn't provide annual reviews or increases so I asked for a raise and was laid off not even a month and a half later. Still looking for work too. Follow the money, job hop whenever you can. 52 Reply Share GunsandCadillacs · 21 hr. ago Most companies have hard caps on raises and will not break their own rules for anyone other than management or salesmen.
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    Many companies are also set up to naturally induce turnover every 5 years or less. You cost the company more money over time, even if they dont pay you more. That resets when you pay someone more to come in, but they dont have the 5-10 years of costs built up in their package either. 90 Reply Share
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    Adamworks 19 hr. ago Data Analytics As a manager who has been in the same position as your boss, honestly, my only tools are a "generous" promotion that you got (which may not catch up to your market rate) or a spot bonus (which will definitely not solve anything), that is it... However, if you come back with a job offer, we can offer you so much more.
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    Though, the big caveat is that a job offer in hand is an implicit demand that you are going to quit if you don't get your way. You have to be ready to make good on that demand. This also assumes you are hard to replace, and it is worth what you are demanding to retain you. The company may deem your request too much and cut their loses and start looking for a replacement. 43 Reply Share
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    B NoIdea WhatToDO · 20 hr. ago It's so common now to just get a new job within the timeframe you mentioned (6 - 36 months). At my company, half the people I met when I started 2 years ago are gone now and my manager always keeps talking about us getting together and doing team building exercises (not sure if he's kidding since we work remotely and a lot of us live in different timezones). I just think it's funny to even care so much about these events if your coworkers just end up leaving the co
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    Prestigious_Dog929. 19 hr. ago I was recently offered a change in title and job description for a promotion i was promised but with no pay increase with the hope that it will come if I "prove myself". I got another job and quit and now they are hiring 2 people to replace me. Loyalty with corporates doesn't exist. 18 Reply Share
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    Broad Ambassador 18 hr. ago Here's the most effective formula to ask for a raise at any company: do not tell them you need the money. Instead, identify a problem. If there isn't one, make one. Figure out how you can solve the problem. The solution should be a roadmap to more profits, somehow. Then, go tell your boss: hey boss, I identified this problem and this is WHY it's a problem and I can fix it by doing A, B and C. (Be verrry general and don't give them your whole plan.) and the company wil
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    Now, you tell them how much it's going to cost them. Ok great, boss! Let's get started right away. I'll need a 20% raise to take on the extra project and get you that X$ by Y quarter. Let's goooo! Bosses and execs love this så t. It's rarely about the work you do. It's about making them happy. Give them something to salivate over and then go for the kill. You have to play the same mind games with them that they play with you. 19 Reply Share
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    ISwearImLeaving · 19 hr. ago Yeah I did the "take on projects and prove your worth" thing once and about a year later got told the same thing. They had gotten used to me going above and beyond and wanted more for a raise/promotion. I ended up walking out of that job with nothing lined up but it all worked out. 10 Reply Share
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    yamaha2000us - 20 hr. ago Don't ask. State the salary you want and ask how to get there. 34 Reply Share lathir92 20 hr. ago It doesnt work as It should. Yes, you might get a raises, but more often than not, Will be below market value. At that point you usually wasted your time and efforts. 18 Reply Share

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