Boss takes 15 minutes off construction worker's pay when he was 1 minute late, his refusal to work sparks chain reaction with other staff: 'I'm not getting paid until 6:15 so I'm not doing any work until 6:15. I enjoy what I do but I don't do it for free'

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    "Boss says 'If you're 1 minute late I'm docking 15 minutes from your time' gets mad when I don't work the 15 minutes I was docked for free."

    This happened about 4 years ago. I do construction and we start fairly early. Boss got tired of people walking in at 6:05 or 6:03 when we start at 6:00 (even though he was a few minutes late more consistently than any one of us were), so he said "If you aren't standing in front of me at 6 o'clock when we start then I'm docking 15 minutes from your time for the day."
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    The next day I accidentally forgot my tape measure in my car and had to walk back across the jobsite to grab it, made it inside at 6:0. Boss chewed me out and told me he was serious yesterday and docked me 15 minutes. So I took all my tools off right there and sat down on a bucket. He asked why I wasn't getting to work and I said "I'm not getting paid until 6:15 so I'm not doing any work until 6:15. I enjoy what I do but I don't do it for free."
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    He tried to argue with me about it until I said "If you're telling me to work without paying me then that's against the law. You really wanna open the company and yourself up to that kind of risk? Maybe I'm the kind to sue, maybe I'm not, but if you keep on telling me to work after you docked my time then we're gonna find out one way or the other."
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    He shut up pretty quickly after that and everyone else saw me do it and him. cave, so now they weren't gonna take his crop either. Over the next few days guys that would have been 1 or 2 minutes late just texted the boss "Hey, sorry boss. Would have been there at 6:02 and gotten docked, so I'll see you at 6:15 and I'll get to work then." and then sat in their cars until 6:15 and came in when their time started.
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    So between people doing what I did or just staying in their cars instead, he lost a TON of productivity and morale because he decided that losing 15 minutes of productivity per person and feeling like a Big Man was better than losing literally 1 or 2 minutes of productivity. Even though everyone stands around BS-ing and getting material together for the day until about 6:10 anyway.
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    After a few weeks of that he got chewed out by his boss over the loss of productivity and how bad the docked time sheets were looking and reflecting poorly on him as a leader because we were missing deadlines over it and it "Showed that he doesnt know how to manage his people.", and then suddenly his little self implemented policy was gone and we all worked like we were supposed to and caught back up fairly quickly.
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    Worker solidarity for the win. Not one person took his crop and worked that time for free after he tried to swing his weight around on them. But obviously I was a target after that and only made it two more months before he had stacked up enough BS reasons to get away with firing me when I called in a few days in a row after my mom fell and I took off work to take care of her and monitor her for a while during the day.
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    TL;DR- Boss told me because I was 1 minute late he was taking 15 minutes off of my time, so I didn't work for 15 minutes. People saw me and I accidentally triggered a wave of malicious compliance in my coworkers. and the boss got chewed out over it.
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    kellykegs I worked in a call center who tried to implement a policy where if you were 30 minutes late they would count it as an unexcused absence even if you came in. You'd still get paid but it would count against you in your review. When I brought up snow delays or major accidents, they told me there were no exceptions to this new rule. Now I'm usually early but, sh happens, and I asked what would stop me from realizing that
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    I'm going to be late because of traffic and just turning around and using PTO since I'd already be dinged for not being there...the response was "I hope you'd have enough respect for your coworkers to not do that to them." Spoiler alert, I didn't and no one else did so that policy didn't last very long.
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    huxley2112 Was a restaurant manager in a former life, I would travel around to different locations and train other managers on how to fix food costs, labor costs, etc. Sometimes corp would send a new manager hire to my main location and I would train them on everything before they went to run their new store.
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    All of my employees at my main store would walk in, punch in, then go in back drop jackets and purses off, put work shirts on, etc. They would then look at the lineup and jump into their positions for the day. Less than 3 minutes from the time they punched in to the time they were in position and working.
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    Had a manager trainee on one of their first "Ill throw you the keys, this is your shift to run" days pull all of my employees aside and explain to them that policy specifically states that they needed to punch in after they are ready to work, not when they walk in the door. I found out later that shift after hearing some rumblings from the staff, so I pulled everyone aside and told them while that is technically policy, no one is abusing it so ignore trainee managers directions from earlier toda
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    When he found out I rescinded his order he decided to break out the calculator and show me how much labor it cost over the course of a month. My location was high volume, so I then proceeded take his "hours lost" number and plug it into our monthly P&L report as a dummy number. Barely moved our labor percentage by .01%, you would never notice it when reconciling month end numbers.
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    ed off I had to explain he just pl the entire staff and turned them against him for a savings that literally no one would ever notice. Ended up being a "seeing the forest for the trees" training moment that he learned from, so ultimately I'm glad it happened. But yeah, weigh the outcome of micromanaging your people before implementing policy. Keep your people happy, employees are an asset not an expense.
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    Psychoticrider I started a new job, we started at 8 AM so I got there about 10 minutes before. My boss told me I had to be there by 7:30. Not wanting to rock the boat I started showing up a half hour early. Then every morning we would sit there until 8:05 and listen to all the boss's bragging. All his fishing, drinking and stories, I guess we were supposed to be impressed. Then at 8:05 he would leap up and bark out orders for the day. Same thing over and over again.
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    I said screw this and started coming in 7:50 and got chewed out for not being there early. I told him if I am required to be here at 7:30, then pay me! He pushed back, I continued to come in at 7:50. He went to the owner and bitched. I over heard the conversation. The owner said that I was correct, he had to pay me.
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    [deleted] We had this cr p. We had one or 2 guys that were late 3 out of 5 days a week. A couple of minutes to half an hour sometimes. Boss said from now on 1-5 mins was 15 mins docked. 6-10 was 30 mins. Over 10 was a meeting and possibly a warning. 3rd day a guy here years is 10 minutes late due to car trouble. Boss says your docked 1 hour. Guy says bye and walked out and never came back.
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    The most experienced person in an area that only one other person half knew. Shhit the fan and it now takes 2 guys to do his job. Boss offered old guy a massive pay rise to come back but he had a new job with a competetor within 2 days.
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    goblue142 My company did this too. A minute late was the same in their eyes as 1hr59mins. So if I was running behind and would be late I would take my time and get there when I get there. Maybe stop for a coffee or breakfast on the way in.
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    quicktojudgemyself When I was a teen I worked on a site that had a super like this. 100% reflection of him. I now own a construction company. We treat our workers right. Handshake, need some coffee, here's what we need to accomplish today. Simple

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