Employee is reprimanded for refusing to join coworker's 'mandatory' €25 birthday pool: 'There are 22 people in the group. That's potentially hundreds every few months'

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    A person counts 10 dollar bills in their hands.
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    AITA for refusing to join my coworker's "mandatory" birthday gift pool?

    I joined a new team three months ago. On day one they added me to a group chat called "Birthdays" HR doesn't run it, it's just a senior coworker who collects money whenever someone has a birthday. The "suggested" amount is €25 per person each time.
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    There are 22 people in the group. That's potentially hundreds every few months for cupcakes and a gift card I never see again. Last month I paid twice for people I've never spoken to because I didn't want to be the weird new hire. This month three more birthdays popped up. That's €75 on top of rising commute costs and everything else.
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    I told the organizer I'd rather opt out and give individually to close coworkers. She replied, "It's mandatory. Everyone contributes, it's about team culture." I said that I'm happy to sign the card and bring homemade cookies, but I'm not doing a standing payment plan.
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    I like my team and I'm not anti- birthday. I just don't want a recurring bill for people I barely know. AITA for refusing to join the "mandatory" pool, or is this boundary reasonable?
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    Commenters agreed that this was a breach of conduct.

    ReasonableCookie... 37m ago • yea, there's a reason HR doesn't run this. was the exchange where she called it "mandatory" in writing? bc if so, i'd forward that to HR NTA
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    Goo_for_scoops · 37m ago NTA - can't make that shit mandatory. Bet HR would be keen to know that it's "part of company culture" .Everyone has different circumstances and commitments. Really insensitive. Stick your guns
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    A group of coworkers discuss something at a desk.
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    notAugustbutordi... • 32m ago They are really spending €550.00 on a colleagues present? That's entirely excessive. I don't think HR would be too impressed with "it's mandatory" comment either.
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    peakpenguins • 38m ago NTA but be aware that this could affect how you're perceived and treated at work.
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    diamondgreene • 29m ago Somebody making money on that. And it ain't the birthday boys and girls
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    Intarwebz-Rando 35m ago Things like this are good for the team, but that seems like a lot of money for each birthday? What kinda gifts are they buying for people? It seems like 5 per person with that many people paying in would easily suffice.
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    paperOwl 28m ago • A suggested €550 per birthday? For cupcakes and a gift card? Either that's a really nice gift card or those are some expensive cupcakes. It should be optional - if you don't pay in, your birthday isn't celebrated. Forcing you to participate? I'd probably report it to HR.
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    Alarming-Finance... . 29m ago I need to know what kind of gifts these people are receiving if there is 22 people and each person has to contribute $25. I would just request the cash when it's my birthday. But yea, that's crazy. I'm all for positive company culture, but this is excessive.
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    . soapsoapsoapsoap1 · 33m ago NTA, are they spending the money on themselves? Why so much?
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    . LaylaDi 34m ago I was an intern in a big company. And then a new employee. And I had to pay 5000 of our currency for everyone in my dept for their birthday. For my birthday they spent 500 each. Which is.. less than even one of their birthday from my part. Just go with your guts. Companies cannot force you.
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    Freya1957 • 11m ago . NTA. I would report it to HR with an observation that the fund should be audited to confirm exactly how this fund is being judged. I seriously doubt it is being spent as it is allegedly supposed to be.
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    FairyFartDaydreams 5m ago NTA For each birthday the "Organizer" is collecting $525 if everyone is giving the suggested amount I would ask what that money is being spent on with receipts and loop in HR
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    thisisstupid- .26m ago I always noticed in places where they make birthdays a big deal it's always unequal, the coworkers who are more outgoing/extroverted get a lot of attention and those of us who like to keep to ourselves get more ignored. I would rather just be completely ignored and keep all that money to myself and buy myself something. NTA.
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    AnimatorDifficult... • 25m ago When is your bday? So they are giving someone 500 bucks in gift cards? That's a huge bday present!
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    2quila •21m ago I use to work at a place that the company would buy the birthday cakes... Eventually as the staff quantity grew.. they just went to having a party once a month all inclusive for however many had birthdays that month.
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    Robie_John · 18m ago . The idea is ok, but the amount seems crazy.
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    cUm2th 16m ago €550 per birthday is nuts. I need receipts, or my belief is that she is pocketing the money at least in part.
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    Delicious_Link6703 · 15m ago . We had similar in our office years ago. The person 'in charge' of the collection decided one month that he could use the money collected as a short-term loan to himself, intending to repay it after pay-day, before the birthday.
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    Well of course he was caught out by someone asking him in all innocence to exchange a large denomination bank note for several low denominations. He was fired, instant dismissal.
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    oldcreaker • 8m ago Is this post for real? 22 people contributing 22 times at €25 per person is €12100 per year - €550 per person per year, and for each birthday. €550 for cupcakes and a card?
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    . MargotSoda • 4m ago If it really becomes a thing tell them you're a Jehovah's Witness and any further insistence you celebrate we be forwarded to HR. They might think you're lying but they will have to stop.
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    UnionSteward Doll 23m ago . The organizer is making big bucks off this little scam. The last time I bought a half sheet cake, it was about $40. Coffee & tea are not that much. NTA
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    Medusa_7898 • 22m ago NTA. You can discuss with HR that you were told this is mandatory and that you simply don't have an extra $500 per year to devote to this.

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