Remote job scolds employees for taking a 4-minute bathroom break, records employees' screens when their mouse doesn't move for 60 seconds: 'I am human, not a robot.'

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  • Y'all I need help. My remote job is micromanaging my bathroom habits and screen. I need advice.

    I work from home for a retail company doing email and chat customer service. Recently, I noticed on my metrics that a log of when I am inactive on an email is being recorded with the date and time of how long my mouse was not moving or when I was not typing. I
  • found this to be kind of curious as my average handle time is perfect so I am not sure why they suddenly started doing this. I asked my manager and he informed me they do it to agents who they suspect are avoiding work. He told me they start recording the screen and logging when my mouse does not
  • move for more than 60 seconds. I privately contacted a fellow co- worker on Facebook and asked her if she gets monitored when her mouse is not moving and she told me yes and that she tries to go to the bathroom on her scheduled breaks only so she doesn't get into trouble. I found this to be
  • absolutely absurd. I have POTS syndrome and Sjogren's and have to drink a lot of fluids during the day to stay comfortable. There is no way I can hold my piss in like that and only go to the toilet 3 times during a 8-10 hour shift. Not happening.
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  • Last Thursday, I had put myself in "Break" to go use the bathroom. I was gone for four minutes because I had a bowel movement (I also have IBS-D and heavy periods). When I returned to my desk, I saw a message on Teams from one of the supervisors telling me to put myself in "Ready". I replied and apologized
  • and explained I was in the restroom. She just gave a thumbs up emoji. After a difficult email or chat, sometimes I need to just sit back in my chair and look away from my computer screen to take a few deep breaths and let my brain rest. That gets logged, too. I find this to be ridiculous that they expect constant writing and typing. I am human, not
  • Person typing on silver macbook
  • a robot. The bathroom policing is making me angry too. Look, I get it that they want to make sure their employees are working, but being logged for not typing or moving my mouse for a 1-4 minutes feels like insane micromanaging to me. I don't even do it on every contact. I go to the
  • bathroom outside of my breaks 1-2 times and that is it. I am not just sitting slack jawed looking at my screen on every contact. I'm about ready to send a company wide email to all of the management team and telling them if I am going to be harassed for needing the toilet that I will start messaging them privately to let
  • them know when I go to the bathroom and when I return.
  • cive666 If they are doing screen caps, like op said, then they would see the mouse moving erratically. Some companies will even require your camera to face you with the shutter open so that when they screen cap they can make sure it's you at the computer. And Just to be clear I don't mean screen caps to capture this video in that link since it's running on a phone placed under a mouse.
  • OP goingtothecircus Unfortunately they record all day long not just when I am inactive. I worry they would see the mouse moving weirdly and catch on that I am using a jiggler.
  • Aperture_TestSubject $15 mouse jiggler on amazon will fix this.
  • OP goingtothecircus They record the screen at all times not just when I am inactive. I worry if I put the mouse on the jiggler they will see it is not me moving it any more and get suspicious
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  • OP goingtothecircus Got to find something else first. I live alone on one income.
  • Proper-District8608 Get a doctor's note now and forward to HR (copy your personal email). This should not be a deal at all and I am sorry, but company is making it one and you are a number. When they pull the statistics on overall monitoring of 'on break', no matter if you are the most stellar employee, you'll be just a number with too much time not active. Nip it in the bud so to speak so this doesnt fester.
  • whereismymind86 Requiring employees to use break time for restroom trips is illegal btw, it's a major osha and ada violation
  • Herry_Up They're trying to fire ppl for stealing time, sadly, you're gonna have to look for a different job. This is how it started at my old company and they fired ppl left and right.
  • buttercupp0085 That's absurd. People working jobs in person are not doing work every minute of their workday. I've worked in retail and offices and there's a lot of chatting, getting coffee, running to a convenience store for a snack or drink, smoking cigarettes, literally just walking around the building, etc....and not during specified breaks. I would get a doctor's note for some protection as it sounds like they're looking for reasons to reduce the workforce without having to pay unemployment

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