Manager demands strict clean-desk policy in the office, employee comply by wasting company time packing and unpacking their belongings every day: ‘Just following the policy’

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  • Chair with Sticky Notes in Messy Office.
  • Our office had a strict "clean desk policy" so i made sure my desk was always completely clean

    This was a few years ago at a company i worked at for about eighteen months.
  • The office introduced a clean desk policy, which on paper was reasonable enough, the idea being that no sensitive documents should be left out overnight and that workspaces should be tidy.
  • The policy as written stated that all desks must be completely clear of any personal or work items at the end of each day, and that compliance would be checked during the evening by the facilities team who would leave a yellow card on any desk that failed inspection.
  • If you got three yellow cards your manager was notified. I want to be clear that i did not have a problem with the spirit of this policy.
  • My problem was with my manager, who had introduced it specifically because one person on our team had a genuinely chaotic desk and rather than speak to that person directly she sent a policy to all fourteen of us.
  • I decided to comply completely and enthusiastically. Every single evening i packed everything into my bag and took it home.
  • Business employee packing office belongings into a box.
  • My monitor i could not take, so i left that. But my keyboard, my mouse, my mousepad, my headset, my notebook, my pen pot, the small plant i had on the corner of my desk, the sticky note holder, all of it went into my bag each night and came back the next morning.
  • My desk passed every single inspection with no yellow cards. It also meant that i spent the first fifteen to twenty minutes of every workday unpacking and setting up, and the last ten minutes packing down.
  • After about three weeks my manager asked if i could maybe just leave the keyboard and mouse.
  • I said i was just following the policy as written, which stated all items. She clarified the policy two days later to specify that equipment could remain, only personal items and documents needed to be cleared.
  • I sent a reply asking for a definition of "personal items" since my plant and notebook were personal but my keyboard technically belonged to the company.
  • She never replied. The policy was updated a week later with a list of specific exemptions.
  • The original target of the policy had not changed their desk at all during any of this.
  • Grombrindal18 I like how your manager is both trying so hard not to be arbitrary, but then falling into it anyway and failing to actually effect the change they wanted.
  • dailyperdition 'The original target of the policy had not changed their desk at all during any of this.' omg that part cracked me up!! thank for this
  • the-channigan The manager: I really don't want to talk to my report about their desk, so I'll put this policy in place. Chaotic desk person: f this, ima get three yellows and then let's see what my manager has to say about it.
  • NYCQuilts One time as a relative newcomer to a team, I was sitting in on a meeting where they were coming up with an elaborate way to track something that was an ab e of a policy. It was all very vague and I was getting paranoid that somehow I had been an offender. I finally asked how many people we were talking about. It was ONE person who could be seen by the secretary and office manager. This was all because the office manager didn't want to talk to him.
  • LadyBAudacious The original target had not changed their desk throughout - presumably she got several yellow cards? Or was it all bluff with no inspection? Amazing how much B management can introduce to avoid doing their job.
  • Perfect-Scene9541 Because doing your job as a manager is hard? Do your job. Talk to the person. Write them up. Let HR take it from there. Meanwhile, send out kudos for all the normal folks decent enough to keep their desks clean.
  • 424f42_424f42 This is what everyone does at every company with hotdesks. Yes, it's a huge waste of resources.
  • Arden_Fray Honestly this feels like they just wanted to act out. Managers put out those rules so people can't claim they're being treated different than others or ask why certain things are alright and others aren't. This just seems childish

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