School district employee criticizes teacher for calling her 2nd grade students 'kids': 'Are you teaching kids, or are you teaching scholars?'

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  • A female teacher stands in front of the classroom as she teaches a science lesson
  • "Are you teaching kids, or are you teaching scholars?"

    This was asked to me by a district employee after I called the students kids during a meeting. I was teaching 2nd grade at the time. How would you have responded?
  • DependentAd235 "True, I suppose students would be a better word." Agree with them to give them a win. Downtown admin can be shady. But like... they aren't 45 year olds reading illuminated manuscripts in a monastery. They are learners. Students.
  • Two monks sitting on steps reading a book
  • Anoninemonie This. Let them think they did something. They leave sooner once they do.
  • StarryBlinkie OP, yeah this is exactly it. You can nod and say "students" to keep admin happy, but it's such a pointless distinction. They're kids, and everyone knows what you meant.
  • BoomerTeacher This is the answer. Calling them scholars is like giving them a participation trophy.
  • ThePrideOfKrakow No Scholars Left Behind!
  • sk8nteach A scholar is a researcher or someone who is an expert in a certain field. A kid is someone who is a child. Also a young goat. I'd probably be paid more if I was teaching scholars and/or goats.
  • Awolrab Even when I was going for my masters I probably wouldn't have called myself a scholar. Lol
  • Harriet M_Welsch My middle-schoolers are far more similar to goats than they are to scholars atp
  • Xgenistential_1 Agreed!!! Plus, granting the title of scholar eliminates a key motivation to strive to be better. To develop that competency. It blurs the concept of a growth mindset. What would they think if I referred to them as as scholars in one sentence and in the next speak of a fabulous mathematician or research scientist as a scholar. It blurs boundaries.
  • So yes, I hate it when teachers misuse the term. A swear, a great many teachers and most of admin should return to school and take a graduate level class in motivation and take a deep hard look at self-determination theory.
  • _contrabassoon_ Kids. "Scholars" ignores all their needs outside of academics. Kids need SEL, play, etc and the term "scholars" does nothing to communicate that about them.
  • Little preschool boy and girl climbing rock wall at playground outside on summer day
  • Storming TheCastle This! I was going to go with, "I'm teaching the whole child."
  • LuckysGift One of the truest things I was ever told is, "If you think you're teaching math, then you need to change perspectives. You're teaching kids."
  • ilacwamh A few months ago, one of my middle school classes was being rowdier than normal, and I said something like, "Why is everyone talking right now" out of frustration. One of the students literally said, "Because we're kids.” I find that I sometimes have to stop and remind myself that sometimes things aren't going to go perfectly because I'm working with kids, and that's just the nature of the job.
  • Snoo-85072 People who make such comments have already shown themselves to be startlingly unaware of how language works. I doubt they would be able to grasp the nuances of any rebuttal. Stay silent and don't make any sudden movements.
  • yeyiyeyiyo Also, hate to say it but the only schools that call kids scholars are poor. Upper class schools don't do that nonsense. It's not some positive thing.
  • AltairaMorbius2200CE Rich kids get to be kids. Poor kids are forced to be adults by EVERYONE, even those looking out for them.
  • empiric1 "Is being condescending and pedantic a good way to communicate your point to a fellow professional?"
  • ThrowRAheregoes Ooh! Magic words, cool.

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