California technician pushes back after company demands he install a tracking app on his personal phone that monitors his location even when he's at home: ‘Who refuses to install it will be taken off the schedule’

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  • California technician working with network cables and server equipment.
  • My employer requires me to install a tracking app on my personal phone
  • Location: California. I work as a field technician. Our company has always used a paper sign-in sheet at the depot and a separate work-order system for service visits. This week management told us to install a new app on our personal phones. It asks for
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  • location access set to "always" and says it can collect data in the background. The presentation said the purpose is to confirm arrival at customer sites, which makes sense during a shift. I asked whether I could turn off location access when I clock out,
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  • and the trainer said the app has to remain active so it can sync overnight. She did not explain why a work visit needs my location when I am at home. We were told that anyone who refuses to install it will be taken off the schedule next week.
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  • I have not installed it yet. I asked for the privacy policy and a written explanation of what data is retained and who can see it. HR sent me a link to the app developer's general policy, which covers several products and does
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  • not clearly describe our company's settings. We have company tablets in two vehicles, so there may be another way to check in, but management has not offered one. I don't want to
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  • lose shifts because I asked a question, and I also dont want to hand over round-the-clock location access without understanding what is collected or how long it stays there. Are
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  • there California rules that address an employer's use of tracking software on a worker's own phone? If the company can require the app during work hours, can it also require "always"
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  • access after work? What should I ask HR to put in writing before deciding how to respond?
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  • Close-up of a smartphone displaying a location tracking app.
  • WH_Laundry_Cart I would consider getting a very cheap phone as a backup to carry with me and that's the only thing you download on it. And then you have them reimburse you for that particular phone line. I would never put that app on my personal phone. I will get a cheap throwaway and put it on that
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  • Ceseuron I have a cheap used "work" phone with no service that only runs on WiFi. That's the ONLY phone I allow any employer to use. They don't get a say, they don't get to insist on using my personal phone, nothing. The phone I provide them is what they get. Never had an employer turn me down or fire me for it either. They want a phone to put something on, that's all.
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  • DiabloConQueso Legal, but if the employer is requiring you to use your personal device for work purposes, you'd be entitled to reasonable reimbursement for that (generally, some fraction of your cell phone bill).
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  • CriminalBizzy This is a great example of why people need to dtop being so casual about using personal devices (not saying that OP is being casual) for business reasons. Employers are constantly blurring the lines between bussiness and personal making difficult to obtain compensation when situations like this come up because its widely accepted to just use what you already have.
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  • LouiseBelcher4life Ask them when your phone stipend kicks in. In California, when an employer requires you to use your phone for business purposes, they have to compensate you. It's in the labor code. I'd suggest filing a complaint with the labor board.
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  • Dixa In California this is illegal. They can not track your location unless they own the device you are using. They also can not use location data to enact any type of discipline including termination in California unless again it's their device they are tracking.
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  • MightyMetricBatman Labor Code 2802 They can do this, but they have to pay you extra for it or provide a work owned device.
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  • Field technician checking equipment in a server room.
  • Secret-Document-7068 It's a real bummer that you just broke your smartphone and now have just a candybar phone. I guess they will just have to figure it out.
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  • Salt Medicine2459 If you're using your personal device for work and the company is involved in litigation, the entire device could potentially become discoverable.
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  • immallama21629 Why the h I is a company requiring a field tech to do anything with a personal phone? They should be providing a company phone.
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