Father of 2 refuses to return $7000 to brother when he backs out of family vacation last-minute, warns he will take him to court: "I'm not paying out of pocket"

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    AITA not giving back 7K vacation reimbursement so my brother can pay Vet bills from his dog?

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    Last summer, a family vacation was planned for my family (M40, wife, and 2 kids) my brothers family (M33, wife, 1 kid), and our parents. The plan was to go to Maui in May 2025. Its easily the most expensive trip any of us have been on. A fishing trip
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    with dad was booked, a very expensive VRBO was booked and final payment occurred last month, and at that point could not be canceled. These shared costs were put on my credit card and I was fully reimbursed by all parties for their share.
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    Last week, my brothers Black Lab had a severe health issue. The dog was 6 years old and unfortunately it passed. I got word of it and sent my condolences. A few days later I got a phone call
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    from my brother. Essentially he went all out trying to save the dog and has a significant vet bill coming his way. He informed me that him and his family are backing out of the trip. He asked for his money back that he paid me.
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    Needless to say a disagreement occurred between us. He thinks because he canceled he should be reimbursed. My family and our parents will still be going. The trip can't be changed at this point. But i'm not reimbursing him, i'm not about to pay another 7K out of my pocket.
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    I told him absolutely not. He's called me an a h le and threatened small claims court. Its been a pretty toxic last few days. He refuses to consider going citing finances, emotional distress from the dog, and he doesn't want to be around me. Am I the A hole here?
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    Games DontStop INFO. Why is it just between you and your brother? Why aren't your parents included in this discussion? Or does he think that you personally should fund his trip cancellation?
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    Moist Ad4128 OP They paid a share of the Vrbo. The fishing trip was a gift for our dad. He is coming at me because he paid me money.
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    November-8485 The costs were split between all. Which means if he backs out everyone's price goes up. Talk to everyone.
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    Replacement Tough7890 I typically agree with this but he stated they are past the point of canceling with reimbursement.
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    mmcksmith The suggestion seems to be the family discuss splitting the increased between those going so the brother gets his 7k back (everyone else pays more).
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    Personally, I'd say no, as OP's brother is an adult and made an agreement with the rest of the family. Likely plans were made based on the shared budget.
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    Moist Ad4128 OP I mean, I don't want to increase my trip cost by 5K to help my brother out.
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    Dubbiely Tell him he should ask his travel insurance to reimburse him. If he doesn't have an insurance that's bad luck because you don't have one either.
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    If he goes to small claim court, he is going to lose also the fee for the court because there is no way he could win.
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    Wandering Gnostic The brother didn't pay directly for the trip. OP paid directly for the trip, the other parties reimbursed him for their part of that trip. The brother wouldn't be eligible for travel insurance, only OP if he had it and was forced to cancel the entire trip.
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    NTA. mfruitfly These were nonrefundable costs, and that is how life works. I assume any trip I back out of, I am not getting a refund.
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    Now, it would be good for the rest of you going to chat about what you COULD refund him. If changes can be made to certain things, like excursions, where you could get a refund for his part, then try. If all the family members are willing to kick in a little to
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    cover part of the house rental, then that would be nice. For example, one time a group of friends rented a house, and two of the sleeping situations weren't ideal (couch in an extra room, air mattress in another), so when a couple cancelled (nonrefundable) we all got better rooms out of it, so we sent them some money back.
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    If there are ways to help your brother, you should all consider doing so, but no, he can't get money for the nonrefundable stuff back.
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    - OP my advice to your brother would be "Find someone else who would like to take your spot that the family would be ok with having on a family event and have them pay to take your spot. Otherwise, this is a vacation already paid for. I'm not keeping our money from you, you've spent that money on a trip you now don't want to go on."
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    Rayonjersey I'm not doing these things for someone who just said they were going to sue me. This is the conversation brother needs to have with you BEFORE he threatens litigation.
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    ChaoticCapricorn INFO: Were all parties informed that tickets/plans were non refundable?
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    Moist_Ad4128 OP Yes, they helped pick the Vrbo. Not the first time they've used Vrbo either. They know the closer to the trip the less likely it is to be refundable.
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    NeedARita So tell him you don't have his money to give back to him. VRBO has it and they won't give it back...
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    SZU This is the simple answer. Just say that you don't have any money. Not that you don't want to give him. Any money he sent was used immediately to pay off the cc. Actually go ahead and do that immediately if OP hasn't done so yet.
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    Ok-Cheetah-9125 NTA You aren't keeping his money. The money was non refundable. It's unfortunately that he lost his puppy but you didn't have anything to do with it.
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    Discount_Mithral This OP isn't keeping money, the money has been spent on the vacation and the window for reimbursement from cancelling on time has passed. The loss of the dog and subsequent vet bills was an unexpected blow, but it's neither OP's fault/problem, nor is there any way for OP to get the money back without shelling out money from his own pocket.
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    Speaking to his vet about a payment plan for this bill, and a possible discount if paid in full due to the loss of the pet would be the way to go.

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