UPDATE: 'He didn't take it well': New boss demands employee stay to work unscheduled overtime, employee hits him with a "no," gets fired

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    My new boss, I'll call him Paul, asked me last week why I was leaving early on Friday. I told him I didn't want to hit overtime. (This is a whole other story.) He reminded me that overtime is time and a half, and he'll totally authorize me to work a few extra hours. I said no. Just no. That's it. One word. His face did something scary and he walked away, but then he came back and told me he really appreciated knowing where we stood and thanked me for my honesty. It felt... wrong. Mandatory overt
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    Update:

    UPDATE We all knew I was going to be fired. It's not a surprise. But the good news is, | took a few very vital functions with me. No one else knows how to do them, and there's no documentation. My old teammates are telling me they haven't seen old "Paul" around in a while, meaning he's over in the head honcho building getting drilled.
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    EDIT to answer some questions: When I was hired, a whopping four months ago, there was never any expectation or discussion of overtime. It was to be avoided, unless absolutely necessary. They fired that manager (for standing up for us) who ensured work was divided fairly and we didn't need to work overtime.
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    I don't claim to be absolutely necessary. I just know how to do the uploads for paying two of our biggest vendors. They're definitely screwed over, but not "oh god we're going to lose the business". They're just going to pay a buttload in late fees. I'd say a medium amount of screwed.
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    Cereal_poster It really is a playbook power trip paired with utter stupidity of your (now recent) boss. Imagine: Starting in a new company, not knowing yet what your people really do and how vital they are in their functions and work scopes. And then firing persons because of your hurt little ego without realizing how this will hurt the company. I assume there is going to be a new management position available at this company soon.
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    HarithBK such an odd power play. if you are about to hit OT and you don't want to take OT nor is your work urgent enough to need OT why push an employee to take OT? that is just wasteful spending.
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    valleyislevideo I did that once or twice at an old job. "no thanks. I make enough" and went home. Didn't get fired though.
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    Whisperingstones I wonder how soon ole "Paul" will be calling you back with a 30% payraise?
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    ThatOneNerd7 dude played the game and lost. Glad you walked with your head up and left them scrambling.
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    Geminii27 Send a written physical letter to Paul's bosses, offering to provide those functions, fully customized for the employer and instantly implementable in their current environment, at what works out to an 'industry standard' specialist- consultant 10x hourly rate (paid in 40-hour blocks in advance, of course), seeing as how Paul not only fired all the employees who knew how to implement them, but forgot to check if there was any documentation first.
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    Jeveran As a contracted consultant, you should get at least 200% of your former full-time rate. Also, any time they need something from you, it's a mandatory 4-hour charge, regardless if it takes less time to solve. As a consultant, you should be available during core business hours, but no late nights, absurdly early mornings, weekends, or recognized holidays.
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    eyeballburger How DARE you express autonomy in the face of the grand Paul!
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    Diorj it is a sign of how little companies are actually paying the employee. Overtime was designed to hurt companies bottom line, but now since they are paying so little to begin with, it is just another tool for them..
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    r_slash_jarmedia mandatory overtime just sounds oxymoronic to me lol
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    Restart_from_Zero Two ways to be a manager of a new team: 1. See everything's working smoothly, take your time to get to know the team and their work and, after that period, make adjustments respecting your team and their work. 2. Wave your around. Make changes, any changes - doesn't matter what. Gotta let the little people know who's boss.
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    nighthawkndemontron Now your former boss is in the FO part of FAFO. If this is how they process and respond to the word "No" you're better off not being there.
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    Thisismyswamparg Your boss sounds like he was pretty uninformed about your duties. Also, why work overtime if you completed your work? I had a job once where I was told I wouldn't be working more than 40 hours a week, that was a huge lie. Two weeks in a row I stayed an extra hour or two every single day and finally on a Wednesday I decided to leave on time. The
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    very next day my boss comes to me and asks why I left early. We got into a huge argument because I had a kid and I had to tell her that I do not live at the office. Funniest part was they did not allow any work from home Even though it would've been easily manageable. But either way honestly, I shouldn't have been expected to work those hours for my pay - I was actually being underpaid compared to everybody else in that office.
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    bbusiello I can't wait for the next update when those vital functions are needed and they're banging at your door!

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