Company demands former employee pay back $5000 for training program after he resigns, docks salary if he refuses : 'This demand was never agreed upon'

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  • a woman wearing a lanyard leans over a man sitting down at a table, pointing to something in a notebook on the table
  • Company threatened me for payment I don’t owe post-resigning

    I worked for a company that sponsored a training program costing $5,000. At the time I joined the training, the company's official policy did not state that employees must repay the training cost if they resign within the same year.
  • After I resigned, the company introduced a new interpretation of the policy. They are now demanding that I repay the $5,000, even though the original policy never required repayment.
  • a man in a business shirt writes something on a small pile of papers
  • The company is justifying this demand by referring to a general disclaimer at the end of the policy, which states that the company has the right. to change or amend policies at any time without prior notice.
  • They have informed me that if I do not pay the amount voluntarily, they will deduct the money from my current month's salary and my provident/probation fund.
  • I cannot afford to pay $5,000, and I believe this demand is unfair because the repayment condition was never communicated or agreed upon when the training was approved.
  • two women and a man sit at a table with laptops, as the man points with a pen at one of the women's laptops
  • Successful_Long4940 Did you or did you not sign a tuition reimbursement agreement. If not, and the requirement was not explicitly stated in the policy, they can fuck off.
  • Conscious-Comb4001 Original Poster's Reply An agreement exists but HR person forgot to get signed off from me. So technically I haven't signed anything
  • _gadget_girl Unfortunately it sounds like they are notifying you that they are planning to deduct the amount from what they still owe you. Contacting the local labor board or whomever regulates employment in your area to find out if they are allowed to do this is a good first step. It's possible that they are hoping you won't actually question it. Depending on what you find out a lawyer may or may not be a good next step. They are not cheap and you need to make sure that you aren't spending mone
  • Petit_Nicolas 1964 Get a lawyer, their rationale is BS. Of course they can amend their policy but this doesn't mean it applies retrospectively.
  • Cagel I'd reply, attention company, it has come to my intention you plan to withhold or deduct my final paycheck. In the location of (your location) final payment must be made by X date. Failure to do so will result in a labour board complaint and legal action. As the withholding will be illegal intentional malice, I will also be seeking punitive damages to protect future victims from this type of treatment. Have a wonderful day, Conscious-Comb
  • Formerruling1 US Federal law generally requires that the employer obtain signed written consent from the employee before any payroll deductions or reimbursements of this type can happen. File a claim with your labor board. Reddit loves jumping to sending the lawyers in, but many of these things can be resolved without ever having to pay for a lawyer. Even if it comes to needing one, your life gets a lot easier if you follow the administrative remedy path first.
  • gormami Their unilateral policy decisions is not contract law. They can change a policy, but if it runs up against labor law, it has no validity unless you signed it, with that language it in. I would look up what the possible damages are in your jurisdiction, other than what you are owed, for willful violation. In a lot of places, double or treble damages are statutory for those sorts of things. My guess is, if you can quote them chapter and verse from the law, they might start to have differen
  • richbiatches Just get a lawyer
  • Successful_Long4940 I left a previous company mid- MBA. Someone that finished the year before quit as soon as she finished and they were supposed to change the policy. When I turned in my resignation, HR director tried to tell me I had to pay it back. I asked him to show me my tuition reimbursement agreement and where it stated I had to pay it back if I didn't stay. His face changed about ten seconds after he looked at the date on it. He was fired less than a week later.
  • Snurgisdr "Dear XYZ, Your policies only apply to your current employees. You do indeed have the right to change your policies at any time, but any changes after my resignation are simply not applicable. Kindly send the full amount you owe immediately. Please be informed that if you do not pay the amount voluntarily (use their exact language here), I will proceed to recover it through < your local labour regulatory body >, with whom I have already been in contact. Cordially,"

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