CEO refuses to grant a raise for an all-star employee despite saving the company $250,000, then the big boss is forced to outsource contractors for twice the cost when the employee quits: ‘[He] resigned immediately'

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  • Losing an employee due to CEO's refusal to provide raise... Venting: As a VP, I feel both capable and powerless.
  • For four years, our CEO has resisted raises. I've fought for my team and secured 0.5-4% increases annually (still not what they deserve).
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  • One employee, hired at mid-range pay three years ago, only received 0.5-1% raises despite excelling. They managed multiple departments, automated processes, and saved us ~$250K/year by eliminating outsourced work.
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  • They requested a 15% raise, which would still make them the lowest-paid on the team. I fully supported it. The CEO stalled, then denied. The employee resigned immediately, securing a 20% higher salary elsewhere and I get it. Completely.
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  • Now the CEO wants to hire contractors at $15K/month (by far exceeding the raise he refused). I'm ped and just wanted to provide some form of solace, that this doesn't make sense to some of us higher ups either. It infuriates me. Teams can't grow like this.
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  • spicyboi0909 This CEO is fundamentally opposed to the concept of raises. It's not a simple math issue for them. This is about philosophical issue. Rather pay more for outsourced work than keeping someone good is a philosophical issue. He probably thinks it's slippery slope. Anyway, maybe you should shop your resume.
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  • sobeitharry I'm one of those employees. The division I run beat our targets by hundreds of thousands of dollars. No raise, less than average bonus. The market is tough but I've got some decent interviews lined up. My boss fully supports me leaving due to the situation.
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  • Competitive_End9116 You would think they would include the potential contractor expense at the same time they are mulling over the raise.. That's frustrating for you. Sorry to hear.
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  • sumth... Interesting to hear this side of the story, i'm on the receiving end of this currently. In the last 3 years i've saved around 30-40k for our company by doing work which was meant to be outsourced. They thank me and encourage me to do this (obviously). I've presented this as
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  • a business case for a raise numerous times only to be brick walled for any type of payrise/promotion. Union has been getting involved in the company, after raising it again I was offered a measly $2.5k "higher task allowance" (per year) which equates to a 97c an hour pay rise. I refused this, and agreed that we will just outsource from now on.
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  • So I stopped higher tasking, and the company since Jan 13 has already paid out nearly 6k in fees to contractors to do what I can easily do. There is at least another 5k in the immediate future and by years end I predict about 20k will be spent. I myself also ask, in what universe does this make sense from a managerial perspective?
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  • cowgoatsheep 0.5%? Lol. Resume definitely getting dusting off anything less than 4%.
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  • MrHaphazard1 I feel like this happens more then we think. Nothing makes sense anymore.
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  • LurkerGhost Hire the contractors. Push your team to move on as well; continue watching everyone leave for more money. Once the team is full of contractors do not train them well and ensure they need to be
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  • micromanaged give them less than they need in order to do their job, push to find another job with an increase in money. Talk to the CEO and demand a double in pay plus a title increase. He will refuse.
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  • Leave. The contractors will self destruct and the CEO will have a storm on his hands. But you are gone with a smile on your face.
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  • pip-whip He's playing a game with the money. The contractor's pay is an expense that ends up in a different column than the salaries. And the contractor doesn't get employee benefits or the 401k contributions so those column's totals go down too.
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  • Sensitive_File6582 You'll have more employees leave once they hear how much he got. Best first of course. Inflation for anyone under $100k a year is double the official stated CPI. You should sh ot for a raise yourself...
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  • Constant-Bet-6600 Loyalty is penalized; being mercenary is rewarded. Just modern corporate policy.
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  • Displaced_in_Space Is the CEO the person that determines market rates for your positions? Does anyone at all do that exercise? There's a tendency for people in leadership to sort of freeze their idea of what a given role is worth pegged to an earlier time. They feel like it's a "set and forget" type thing.
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  • It requires some mechanism that you use to benchmark positions against the market data. The thing is, not all jobs WILL increase due to market conditions. I've had situations where we had a person highly above market for 3 years. She got no increases at all. We explained the situation to her,
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  • showed her data and told her we would support her if she looked elsewhere. She didn't know it but I later found out that she interviewed at two places and got all the way to selection and the pay they offered was well below what she was making here. So she quietly accepted it until the job market turned around.
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  • But some mechanism must be done to ensure that you understand what you need to pay to keep the right people in play.
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  • coffeegrounds42 Ask yourself to do you really want to work under a CEO like this? Time for you to work on your resume.
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